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Compared to a US car for 1974, it appears to be missing some decals in the engine bay (like on the air/carb box), but maybe the UK didn't have similar decals?

What about the rest of the car? Books and tools? What about the front tire compartment and the rear trunk?

 

Nice looking Dino, looks like someone has done a LOT of work to it to prep it for sale
http://www.foskers.com/car_sales/page_2_sales/car_2.htm
- extra horizontal piping on the Dino doors (like Daytona)
- can't tell 100% about the seats from the small photo but it kinda looks like the Daytona inserts seem flat adjacent to the seat panels
- Black Mousehair looks new
- 308 Radiator cap on the overflow tank

 

The attached graphic shows the market for RHD 246 GT/GTS (screen prices) over the past 28 years in the UK Compiled from numerous primary sources over the past year or two. There's still data to be collated to fill out the full period, but a number of facts stand out from the full data set -

1. The prices today are still below the 1989 boom, but not by much;

2. The data on claimed mileages today suggests very strongly that there has been widespread misrepresentation - The mean hasn't risen for a decade and the variance is currently falling;

3. The Foskers cars are the highest screen prices since the 1980s boom, and the highest priced cars actually never sold at those prices. They were sold in the early 1990s at a lot lower prices than they asked for in 1989;

4. Cars International in Kensington had a 246GTS (MVB 320L) at various prices between £89,995 and £110,000 from Jan 07 to about July. It was sold at auction by H&H for £90,000 (exc buyers premium) the highest auction price since at least 1990.

My view : If it looks like a bubble and it moves like a bubble, it's often a bubble.
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Yellow 1973 246 GTS for USD $215k

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=320158598276

I was a bit surprized that the seller didn't mention that it was a European Version Dino

Plus, dealers are now getting into them; a sign that these cars are being circled...or the end is near

 

The Dinos are above Boxers, and as beautiful as they are, there is something fundamentally wrong there IMO.

 

I'm not sure about that. It lacks the small front side marker lights, which could indicate that it's a US car that's had the big side marker lights surgically removed. Since there are no engine compartment shots, one can't say for sure...

 

i just returned from europe and picked up a couple of uk car magazines. in one of them, the comments made about dino's and the market are interesting, especially when it involoves the outfit that specializes in them, nick cartwright.

 

Those were bigger dollars back in '89, allowing for 18 years of inflation.

 

based on the graph, i can clearly se the bubble effect in the 1989 region. however, it must be noted that the recent trends shown in your graph are different. there are far more cars and a consistent movement upwards. i wouldn't call that a bubble.

forget that the value is what it is (or is it?). the grapgh you show doesn't provide any indication to me that a bubble effect has taken place. i would be interested to see this graph shown in relation to the aston martin db5 graph. i know they aren't comprabile cars, however, pricing trends in the db5 market are shocking over the last 3 years. even more so in the db6 market. i feel the aston's have long been under-valued, but the rise is greater than the dino.

 

One fact that has current history diverging from the graphical "bubble history" theory is that Real End-Users are the people procuring the Dinos. Recently I've noticed that dealers have gotten into the fray and this could be the fact that turns the tables, depending on supply and demand.

 

yes, but the dealers don't have that much pull today. for the most part, a dealer advertised car is gone before the magazine makes it to publication and distribution. still end users are buying. the commenets made by the nick cartwright guys are very interesting.

i am just curious to see what the falling dollar does to dino's here in the us. i suspect they will go for a boat ride very quickley.

 

it's got Euro front parking lights and recess shape for the lights....

 

article in the oct 2007 classic and sports car magazine
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+1
Nice cars are getting impounded in collections or held on tightly. The "cars that are dogs" have been subject to full restorations and that is drying up what was once the lower end.

The Dino does it all quite well; drives nicely with a GREAT power to weight ratio, is reliable and can be a concours contender in the vintage section.
These can even be daily drivers, ask Corbani!

 

Sorry, the reason there are more data points now is that rebuilding the historic data is an ongoing (and incomplete) process - so don't draw any conclusion from the volumes.

I agree that DB5 is going through the same thing (and DB4 more so than DB6) as is 365 GTB Daytona - it's a generational thing.

jg

 

the volume isn't what i was referring to, it was the sharp spike versus the gradual rise

 

but yet we see the following:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320158598276&rd=1

asking $215k

accepting $185k

several things not right about the dino

is this a dealer car or a consignment car?

i would be curoius to know the details

 

I think the price is perfectly appropriate. Beaters are fetching $150K -$175K and need at least $75K to make them pristine.
My pristine C&F GTS Dino can be had for $249,000

 

i think given the market conditions, the devaluation of the $ amd the rarity of the dino with these options, we will all look back and critice oursleves for not having bought the car a year from now. however this statement may seem, i remember walking away from dino's and other cool ferrari's a year ago for far less than they are worth today.

i am not saying that i think the us market is growing, but based on the weakening dollar and the growth in other markets, i feel most certain that there will be a high number of us spec cars (dino's or otherwise) leaving the usa

 

In years past, the Dino was quite popular in the USA and UK, but not so in mainland Europe.
Have things changed in the last 20 years?

It would be great if we heard from some mainland Europeans on their impression of the Dino market attraction.

 

Dino's downunder in average condition are fetching US$200k all day long. A restored car sold for US$250k recently

 

The yellow Euro Dino is back on Ebay...buyer could not come up with money...

 

I thought as much considering neither left feedback for the other