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New Maser Coupe/Spyder- hp?

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  1. cosmicdingo

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    How much horsepower will he new coupe/spyder have?-- the recent Motor Trend (January) article states only 390-- INADEQUATE!!!
     
  2. Derek at FoD

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    I don't know if that's true or not but if the car is light enough, why would 390hp be "inadequate"?
     
  3. Townshend

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    I doubt it. The current model has 390, even the GS is at 400. I've heard numbers in the mid to high-400s, but that would put it close to F430 territory and that won't happen. I place it at around 420.
     
  4. SJN2004

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    Its getting a variant of engine in the Alfa 8C, which is officially 450bhp. People in the "know" seem to expect the Maserati iteration to be between 450 and 470bhp.

    Don't forget, the 4200 had 390bhp when the Modena had 400bhp.
     
  5. italiafan

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    Now that Maserati has put a little distance between itself and Ferrari, why can't it have similar HP? The two brands/cars appeal to different customers, they can have similar HP and not step on each other's toes. People don't cross-shop GranSport and F430...different, yet each beautiful.
     
  6. lukek

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    at the right RPM, the 390hp Maser can also pass (in the short term) the 400hp Modena. Lots more down low torque for the everyday.
     
  7. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Yip and on a twisty track a well driven GS will stay ahead of a 360....saw it both around corners and in a straigh line.....
     
  8. ITALOVER

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    What worries me is the manual transmission seems to be fading out . When I'm ready , I'll try the F1 , but just have the notion it'll not do it for me .
     
  9. absent

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    New Coupe will have 4.7 liter V8 with a round (and exact) 450hp (European guise),about 443hp in the US.
     
  10. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Sounds about right to me....
     
  11. Townshend

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    Yes, I agree it's getting a variant of the 8Cs engine (which btw is a variant of Maseratis 4.2L, so in reality it's still a Maserati engine..) but what you're telling me is that the new Maserati will have a lower price point AND also produce more than its brother, the 8C?
     
  12. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Hope it's more than 500, otherwise my 06 will have more than my 08 by the time I get it. Realistically I'm guessing 475bhp, but one can dream.
     
  13. Scuderia980

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    no, the logic has the 8C with around 450, the new Maser Coupe with a little less. Even though the new 4.7 lump is said to be capable of making over 500hp reliably, it won't happen because the next "Dino" will be coming in with 470'ish...The Ferrari must have the most power out of this new class of cars, it is said. Wouldn't worry in the case of the 8C because of its lower weight...putting its lb/hp near the F430's.
     
  14. JBsZ06

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    With slightly more weight....why must maserati coupe have less hp than ferrari?
     
  15. Townshend

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    It's a marketing issue. An inferior brand name, especially within a company, cannot have any specs, especially one as highly regarded as horsepower, be equal to or greater than that brand.
     
  16. wbaeumer

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    or...in other words: Ferrari is the "Holy Cow" and nothing is allowed to come close to!

    The question becomes even more delicate: why has the new Alfa 8C more horsepower than the engine which comes from Maserati??

    Every M5 or Aston Martin driver will laugh at the Maserati driver who comes across his path......! Maserati deserves more:

    500-550 hp, a real georgeous look, perfect balance and superior brakes! That`s all.

    This "Hey-don`t-touch-Ferrari"-attitude of the FIAT-chaps is more stupid than ever: 2 steps ahead and then 1 step back (see: the new standart automatic gearbox with the Quattroporte! If this component would have been in the car from the beginning on the sales would have increast about 30%!).

    Ciao!
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  17. dsd

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    Walter, I could not agree more.

    I have an 04 CC and a deposit on an 08. But the way things are looking there is no way I will buy an 08. Whats the advantage for me? Even if the 08 gets 450, I am not sure 50HP is a big enough jump.

    Current plan: keep the 04, add a Gallardo in 18 months.

    -dsd
     
  18. wbaeumer

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    dsd - better alternative: buy an MC12 "Corsa" and you have enough for the rest of your life! Some money left then? OK, go for the babes.....!

    Ciao!
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  19. jack

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    Power is not the only way. 400 hp is enough for the current Coupé. But for an heavier car, they need more, for sure. They probably will go for a "more GT" car. That's sad because I am looking for a very exclusive and sporty car. I will probably go for the Porsche GT3 RS for my next car. It is a pitty the GranSport is not a "Maserati GT3". In my opinion Porsche have a very nice product range, but (always a but) they are not so exclusive cars like Ferrari or Maserati. It think Maserati is wrong with the "little-steps" strategy : GT, CC, GS, GS MCV...
     
  20. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Jack,

    For some the 390hp may be enough but for me, I think 500bhp would put the car at the level it needs to be. Others that are excited about or MVP500 kit for the Maserati 4200 and have put them on pre-order would agree, I think because it's a heavier car and more of a GT car the 390hp doesn't feel like it to me, whereas in the 360 I think it's plenty fast and it's only rated at 10hp more.

    Regards,
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  21. SJN2004

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    The Dino, if it ever comes is 2-3 years away, by then the 430 will have been replaced with something around 550hp, so how will a Maserati coupe released in March step on the toes of a Ferrari?

    As for the Alfa? They are lighter (with carbon body panels) and the limited run is already sold out. Why would Maserati bother about their new coupe having more power?

    People in the "know" have consistently put the new coupes power output at 450-470hp, rather than the mutterings/opinions of some in this thread who think everybody is a fanboy and how possibly could it have more or near power to a Ferrari.
     
  22. Scuderia980

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    what are you going on about? hard to understand the muttering at the end there...

    well, there are tons of people who are "in the know" it seems...

    it is quite possible that the F430 replacement is moving up market(rumours by those "in the know")...more power, higher price tag...leaving that previous price slot for the new V-8 Ferrari...which will be close to the new Maser Coupe's/Spyder's...so, how do think the Ferrari marketing machine is going to handle this? Even if the new F-car is 2 years away, do you really expect it to have less power than the Maser Coupe, when it comes out?
     
  23. SJN2004

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    "In the know" as people who have actually seen it at the recent dealer preview.
     

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