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  1. NeuroBeaker

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  2. Ryan S.

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    Rear fenders look great. Would like to see it next to the GT3 in person.
     
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    It's pretty cool ...

    Carbon body, active aero, DCT transaxle, blown V8, innovative suspension by Multimatic ... at $150~200K it would be a "must have", i suppose. But $300K ... with another god-awful application process (that will no doubt favor "influencers" once again)? Think i'll just keep the Mustangs I already got.
     
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  6. malex

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    Yeah, I'm right there with you. It's interesting. But at $300k . . . I can think of a lot of other cars that I'd prefer. So I'll just stick to my GT500.

    Or is it THAT much better than (or even equivalent to) a C8 Z06 - as there's a reason (e.g. physics) why GM finally transitioned the Vette to mid-engine. At some point, GM's C8 Z06 production will catch up to demand and pricing will return to MSRP (or lower?). And there's little to stop GM from introducing a Z06R variant with a bit more power and weight stripped down to bare necessities as a counter to the GTD.

    And even if I had the desire to buy one, I'm not an "influencer". So I'd be SOL with the whole application process anyways.
     
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    #32 werewolf, Aug 17, 2023
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    yep ... not all 50/50 weight distributions are created equal ;)

    This new stang isn't "pretty much like" a mid-engine car because the transaxle gives it 50/50 ... it will still have a significantly, noticeably higher polar moment of inertia :(

    but again, fwiw ... i don't hate it. And i tend to hate just about everything new.
     
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    #33 boxerman, Aug 18, 2023
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    For normal civillian and amateur track use I'd be waiting on the z06R with weight stripped out if thats well under $200k and actually ever gonna happen .
    Corvette is going to ripost anyway with the zr1 at 800 or 850 hp and a TT, prob around 180-220k.

    This mustang, seems far more purposeful, we don't know weight but they prob got it down to 3300-3500lbs, and there is a whole lot of downforce evident, plus 800hp. If multimatic involved its more than likely a very purposeful car and will in some pro test show better laptimes than a z06.. Like others before it, this car will be a collectors item, very few is any used in anger.

    clearly the ultimate mustang, and thats a market with a following. In the swansong of Ice were seeing the best stuff done, and this is clearly a very cool car whether its ones taste or not.

    Right now we're looking at the ultimate mustang being built in some numbers so ford can race it in a series, a car that otherwise will be a cars and coffee collectible.

    Will be interesting to see if the bodywork and some other bits migrate to a production mustang for under 100k, that could be interesting. Imo a production based mustang with this bodywork 3500lbs or less and 500hp is a sweetspot for a production car.
     
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    Hopefully some bits and pieces in the future will trickle down to the working man's Dark Horse.

    Looks great.
     
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    It doesn't make sense in so many ways, but what dos logic have to do with passion- honestly i'm just glad it exists. Well done by ford, this is super cool.
     
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  11. I hope not.

    I don't want them to cheapen the GTD.
     
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    Poor working folks also need to race.
     
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    Too much money, too few cars. 100k would be right and option of wing delete.
     
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    No idea how they will sell approx 2,500 cars at this price. I do not doubt the performance and value. 500 cars would hold the re-sale value much better.
     
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    cant see how theyre are going to remove 500 lbs from 4000lb shelby 500. this car will be lucky to be 3700 lbs. its like an american aston martin more than anything else imo. cant see the value in 300k even as a future collector car
     
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    can’t see the value in lots of collector cars these days, this one is a thing cause it’s the ultimate ice stang forever.

    you may be right on the weight. I’m assuming that a cf body looses a lot of weight, and that for 300k they can loose more elsewhere relaxing steel with aluminum. Against which we’re going to have a heavier motor and transaxle. Come to think of it if the Shelby is 4000lbs on a good day then they have to loose 5-600lbs to get to 3500 lbs wet, not likely to happen.

    still they’ll sell every one and it will be the ultimate stang ever.

    now let’s see a dark horse with that body
     
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    From what we hear at the Ford GT forums site, production will be very limited and follow a similar allocation process (application) like they required for the new Ford GT. I would love to have one but in a crowded field of demand…unlikely.
     
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    I had to laugh at the "limited to 1000-2000 units"
    I'm pretty sure $300K for a Mustang (even this Mustang) will be way more of a limiting factor than Ford's "production limit".
     
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    They will sell all of them. This is way closer to a true GTO in principle than the 599 GTO.
     
  20. 300k is new 100k.
     
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    Eventually they will...
    Comparing this to a Ferrari???
     
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    I will be amazed if they get this car to 3,500 pounds wet (that would be under 3,300 pounds dry). Carbon Fiber is light but it ain't THAT light;)
     
  23. 95spiderman

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    I'm revising my estimate to 3800 lbs full fluids customer car on scale. Drag times website will do that. Lap times will probably be slower gt3rs and def slower next gt2rs
     
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    Today I heard 3000lbs
    Let the guessing games begin
     
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    Wow. That would convert me to mustang fanboy status
     

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