#01438 bought from Gary Bobileff Motorcar Co in San Diego. Will do a complete restoration to bring it back to its original glory. I would love to see input on its past history from all of you here if possible. Thanks! http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/497731-1992-ferrari-512tr-red-tan-interior.html#post144154882
Congratulations! Simon Leach would be good to discuss bringing your body panels back to original. He works independently in a small shop near John Wayne Airport. He built the all aluminum Dino body (search F-Chat) and is passionate about Dinos and is an expert on all the unique contours and flanges of a Dino body. Also, I believe John Amette at OC Ferrari knows your car. He does all the Ferrari Classische work and is located a few blocks away from Simon. Freeman
Here's the thread on Simon's Dino: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/206-246/295393-dino-gt-03664-rebodied-aluminum.html If you're in Southern California there are few people I would trust to bring back your panels accurately to their original contours, grill and vent openings, bumper supports without bondo or filler. Simon has all the templates and access to original Dinos for reference. You'll probably be using a variety of sources and shops to do a complete restoration unless you're fortunate to have Jon Gunderson (OMGJON Dino Restoration | Restoring a Ferrari Dino) take it on. Freeman
Being new here, not sure if you know about the registry: The Dino Register - Dino Search Your car's info is scant; you can add info to the database. Congrats on your new car! Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thank you for all of your quick replies! Engine and transmission are currently being rebuilt by Gary Bobileff in San Diego. As a lot of the original parts like the bumpers and interior (seats, carpet, etc) are all missing, it would take some time to do a full restoration to its former glory.
Hi Shawn, the front compartment for the spare has been modified to put in 2 interior blowers, just below the scoops in the hood.
I am interested in some Pictures of the headlight covers, especially how they are fixed? I cannot see any screw or bolt Fixation of the front part?
I believe the previous owner built the car in the late 90s (when it was much cheaper) to pay homage to the ferrari 250 LM, hood scoops included...with all the craze now of getting everything as authentic and original as possible, I would like to restore it back to factory specifications. I don't live in the US so this car will remain in the care of Gary Bobileff in San Diego, CA. I trust him completely to do it justice and bring it back to its former glory. I do have more photos....as attached! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
...with all the craze now of getting everything as authentic and original as possible, I would like to restore it back to factory specifications. Can't blame you for wanting to make your car original but I think it looks pretty cool as it is.
Yes, we are doing a full engine and transmission rebuild right now, so that the car is ready for me to use when I come to the US in Dec. It would make a nice drive in San Diego area. Then next year, we are planning for the full restoration for the body and interior.
+1 on a cool driver to put on the road. The rearranging of gauges to focus on engine parameters was keen for racing. This car is what it is, and surely there is better candidate for restoration? You'll be running into a myriad of issues to deal with and the pit gets deeper. For example, The hood vents seem like a simple patch job, right? Well no, the front bonnet is usually aluminum and any welding patches on that will cause warping. That leaves an incredible amount of chasing beyond the patch or re-skinning the whole hood. Man hours are going to add up like this again and again...
Redoing this car is not a major ordeal. Welding of the hood , back to stock is a "piece of cake". There's no sensible reason to re skin a hood because it has two small holes. I make aluminum body pieces all the time, and in this case it's not the least bit necessary. I modified this car per my customer's request back in 2000, along with the restoration, which was 14,000 KM ago, he wanted a 250 LM style nose look. Putting it all back to stock is simple. All it takes is the green stuff called money! Gary Bobileff Bobileff Motorcar Company in San Diego
I think you did a great job with the 250LM look-- looks great to me Was the engine rebuilt in 2000? If so, why does it need another rebuild after 14K km?
I think the nose is drop-dead gorgeous and wouldn't change a thing. I don't like the bright yellow pentastar wheels and would switch those back to stock, but the nose is beautiful. The seats could always be changed if you decide you don't like them (they could be hard to get in and out of, depending on how tall you are), but first drive the car a while. If the FACTORY had done that at the request of a special client the car would be famous, people would rave about it, and be worth 3X a stock Dino is worth, but since it was done afterward its frowned upon. Its ridiculous.
I yield to Gary, always kind enough to host the Ferrari club, judge Ferrari concours and all round top notch outfit. From his seminar in 2012, he stands by his quotes for a job. My concern of creeping costs is eliminated by that single example of how costs can balloon on Dino restorations. Image Unavailable, Please Login
It's great to see all of you and Gary to chime in. What a wonderful community. Pantdino, that is exactly the way we are going. When I come back in December to San Diego, I do expect to drive the car as is albeit with completely restored engine and transmission. Work should commence anytime now. I am only 5'9" and quite used to getting in and out of race seats, so the current seats in the car won't be a problem to me. I do however want the wheels to be returned at least to the stock color, and not yellow. Car looks a bit funky as it is right now with the red/yellow scheme...
I'm going to assume the engine was not rebuilt in 2000, only ca 10,000 miles ago. Did the 250LMs have yellow wheels in period?
I guess the original intention of the previous owner was to build the dino to be a cross breed between these 2 cars: the 206 SP and the 250 LM. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I don't know if the look is something that is for me. However, let's step back into the year 2000. Is the car was a nice driver, it was probably a $60k car. That is what nice drivers were selling for when I was looking. Although I do remember looking at a Ferrari Bino here in Houston for $35k with lots of needed attention. Bad yellow paint and an interesting white and black interior. Basing something like this was probably on a decent car, that it was more fun to make into a track car than to spend proper money to restore. Restoring it wouldn't make any financial sense. Ferrari Challenge was in full swing and cars like this were super cool. Taking it back to a reasonable level today, is an expense that makes sense. If the car has been known by Gary all during this time, he would know best. He knows what potential skeletons lie buried. He isn't a guy know for jerking people around ( I have never met Gary or dealt with him). It seems like a car that needs a new custodian, regardless of reason or use, has found good hands in a new owner AND a mentor to walk with them through the field of restorational experience. I call it a win/win/win! Owner/seller/Dino community