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New tip on passing emmissions :)

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by bpu699, Nov 9, 2006.

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  1. bpu699

    bpu699 F1 World Champ
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    Took the testarossa for emmisions. I always ask for the idle test, rather than the rolling test. I figure it limits damage potential and increases chances of passing.

    In the past, I just mentioned that the testarossa has the engine/fans in back, and it will overheat on the rolling test. Worked last year, at least.

    So, right of the bat, I park in the lot, and walk to the managers office. I don't mention the type of car, just say its a classic ( :) ), and the motor is in back. I also mention my concern about overheating.

    The manager comes out to speak to me. She immediately points out that EVERY car is tested rolling, and it doesn't matter what it is. I point out that last year, I only did the idle test. She looks at me suspiciously, and murmurs "I doubt it." " I have been the manager here for 15 years, and EVERY car gets the rolling test."

    Then, she asks what kind of car it is.

    "Ferrari."

    "Oh." "We have been told we can't drive those. They don't have a reverse gear lockout (?!), and are very expensive to fix (yep :) ). Yeah, lets idle test it."

    And then she asks,"It doesn't have a reverse lockout, right?"

    What am I to say? Nope. Never had one. One bad shift and you blow a 40,000$ trans... ;).

    Car passed with flying colors :). So, hint to the wise. Just tell your tester there is no "reverse gear lockout," as they are not allowed to drive these cars! (new policy)

    As an aside. Digging through my car, I found all of the emmisions tests since new. Which is great, because now I have collaboration of the low miles since birth :)! yeah!

    Now, can anyone spot anything unusual in the emmissions test (done from memeory here):

    Age Mileage
    2 1000
    4 1400
    6 2300
    8 4000
    10 5500
    12 63000
    14 9000
    16 110000
    18 120000
    20 14000

    :). Now, hopefully any future buyer will understand how this occurred, and not assume odometer rollback :). What do you think?
     
  2. Jeff328

    Jeff328 Formula 3

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    Tested in WI or IL?

    My 328 was just tested in WI and they didn't even consider doing a rolling test. They also didn't check the gas cap. No one at the testing station even touched the car.
     
  3. bpu699

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    Jeff, Racine Wisconsin. They did ask me to lift the hood to see the cats, put the sniffer up the back, and that was it.

    If nothing else, I am starting to appreciate smog tests for what they are: A great way to document mileage (or lack of). I was extremely please to find those reciepts in the glove box - adds value to the car, by documenting the mileage :).
     
  4. cavallo_nero

    cavallo_nero Formula 3

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    looks like they put an extra zero in occurances 12, 16 and 18
     
  5. GrigioGuy

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    Doesn't work that way in Texas. If it's not computer compliant, it HAS to go on the rollers.

    I'm really tempted to buy an acre out in an uncontrolled county and register the machine there.
     
  6. bpu699

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    Yep, and to me it looks obvious. I am just preparing myself for the day I decide to sell, and someone cries out "odometer fraud!" Kind of obvious how they goofed, no?
     
  7. johng

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    i think that kind of error is somewhat common. i have seen it on my own receipts. they've goofed on the mileage altogether. i am not a fan of gas station service work, at least in my area.
     
  8. Jeff328

    Jeff328 Formula 3

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    That was my experience as well. Sniff at idle, look under hood. Kind of a waste of state money from an air quality point of view, I think. Never looked at it as a way to document mileage, but that's a good point now that WI issues mileage exempt titles for older cars.

    I too found old emissions testing slips from previous states where my car lived. Interesting pieces of history.
     
  9. bpu699

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  10. Jeff328

    Jeff328 Formula 3

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    Same here, with just under 24,000 on the 328 and I also have a '67 Pontiac GTO with 62,000 documented miles that now has a mileage exempt tilte.

    I know that many other states do the same thing. I would imagine they quit documenting mileage because it costs extra somehow or someone sued the state even though the mileage is seller reported.
     
  11. ronr

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    Got my 91 348 done today, passed easy. In Texas, the rule is, '96 or newer, it does the rolling test. Older than that, you do the the sniffer at idle and at about 2500rpm. I think you can opt to do the roller test if there is a better chance of it passing.

    It was pretty comical, all the guys in the garage were coming over checking it out, and asking me tons of questions. How fast? How much? Is it a Lamborghini? When it was all over, I realized they didn't bother to check any lights, blinkers, horn, wipers.... I think they forgot! :D Most fun inspection ever!
     
  12. Darolls

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    In Illinois, mileage isn't documented on cars 10 or more years old.
     
  13. 285ferrari

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    In MD it is always documented on the title. Unless there was a problem with it at one point , then there is a checkbox that says odometer not true
     
  14. BigAl

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    they do rollers in Dallas? not in Austin, at least yet......
    Last inspection I went with the low mileage waiver.
     
  15. Andy 98RT10

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    You have 140,000 miles on your testarossa?

    Very impressive!
     
  16. Bullfighter

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    I will be your first illegal immigrant...

    In CA, they put the 328 on rollers and drove it. It passed easily. I didn't ask for an idle test - not sure you can do that here.
     
  17. shill288

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    I live in CA and was required to bring my GTO to a "Test Only" station for the smog test. Like some of you, they were afraid to put it on the rolling dyno. They entered some sort of gibberish into the computer and passed it the old fashion way.

    In CA, I guess like Texas, if you live in a non high smog impact zone (i.e., outside of LA, central valley, Bay Area, San Diego) they do not require the rolling dyno test and there are no "Test Only" stations. So, registering your car in one of those areas will avoid all this foolishness; at least for now.

    Steve
     
  18. DotHater

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    register it in FL they havent figured out what emissions tests are there yet, hence almost all my cars have Fl tags
     
  19. vlamgat

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    In TX we do have a non-roller test for all wheel non-OBD2 cars like my Quattro. It requires an idle test and then one for 3 minutes at 2500 rpm, which has to be within 200 rpm or you start the test over. Its 3 strikes and you pay another fee to start all over. Whenever my engine fans cut in the revs drop by enough to blow the rev band and make the test start over. I finally figured out that you should do these tests with the a/c on so that the engine fans are engaged from the start. This exemption does not exist for non AWD cars unless they are over 25 years and are officially "Classics" I believe.
     

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