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  1. Jagbuff

    Jagbuff Formula 3

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    #1 Jagbuff, Jan 20, 2011
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    So the much discussed and maligned Italian flagged 360 CS made it home after 16 plus months of being for sale. I believe a couple of folks on this board looked at it and almost bought the car but ultimately left a brave soul like me to take the plunge ;)

    The good news is that after so many PPIs and missed sales, the dealer was ready to move the car and opted to fix a bunch of things in order to make it happen, unfortunately for him the car was already branded with scarlet letter by cognoscente on this board (and not so cognoscenti) who had passed their verdict on its condition and relative value (not to forget the painted flag). This gave me plenty of background information and insight so after some haggling that started in August we finally arrived at mutually agreeable price that suited my budget for a fun road and track car and left some cushion for the repairs and other tweaks.

    The work done in the last few months included a full belt service, new clutch, new tires and repaired rims and a new wiring harness (some bonehead spiced a radar detector into the main harness) all by the dealer or F-car specialist. This addressed many of the issues identified by prior buyers.

    Impressions:
    In light of the price and many of the negative comments about the car, I really expected a rough looking car and was pleasantly surprised when it arrived. It drives very well and pulls very strong into the revs without a stumble. Lift inspection shows no prior accidents - only the typical road rash. The paint is very nice, and while the flag thing really didn’t appeal to me, in person it’s actually very well done. My wife even thinks think it suits the car well considering its loud and brash nature… The #9 on the door is silly, but again in keeping with the intended use as a road and track (maybe I should add a 6 in front?). The interior has held up nicely though there is fading on the dash. I may not be as finicky as some, but the comments I read about the car being ”trashed” leads me to wonder if they actually saw the car in person. I would rate the car in overall good condition (7-8 range). Though it is not without issues, these include; stuck front hood latch (fixed), hazy headlights, yellowing clear bra, missing radio code, only one set of keys and no pin, gas tank that won’t fill up properly and has thrown a CEL, rough start up (first 10 secs) when cold, and the transmission warning light coming on briefly down shifting from 3 to 2… Even PPIs don’t catch every thing so I guess I’ll be posting about that for insight.

    Plan for this weekend… club breakfast and local track :)
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  2. bjm

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    #2 bjm, Jan 20, 2011
    Congrats, great that this black sheep CS has finally found a good home.
     
  3. pearsonhaus

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    #3 pearsonhaus, Jan 20, 2011
    Congrats! I hope you enjoy your new toy!!
     
  4. Houston348

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    #4 Houston348, Jan 20, 2011
    congrats on the purchase! I'm sure you will enjoy the hell out of it... Love the "6" idea lol
     
  5. FerrariDublin

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    #5 FerrariDublin, Jan 20, 2011
    Fair whack to you! Glad to see someone finally jumped in to give that car a rattle!
     
  6. PAP 348

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    #6 PAP 348, Jan 21, 2011
    Congrats Frenchie! :eek::eek:
     
  7. nizam

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    #7 nizam, Jan 21, 2011
    Congrats!

    Glad to see the car rescued :)

    Hopefully both you and the car will enjoy each other's company going forward!
     
  8. since-15

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    #8 since-15, Jan 21, 2011
    Enjoy flogging it!
     
  9. jjsaustin

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    #9 jjsaustin, Jan 21, 2011
    Congratulations.

    Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow.
     
  10. andrew911

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    #10 andrew911, Jan 21, 2011
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    Great story- good luck with the car- I KNOW you're going to have fun with it and have the right attitude!

    The startup stumbles for the first/cold start are "normal/common" for the 360's and I wouldn't bother worring about it- don't push the gas pedal, just let the car get to normal idle on it's own per my mechanic. The symptom may go away with regular use- mine doesn't do the cold start stumble when driven every week or two.

    If by gas filling problems you mean after a fill the gauge doesn't go all the way to 10 bars that is common (mine goes to 8 or 9 bars- I really don't care as the gauge is accurate otherwise)

    The CEL could be any number of things- interesting if it is related to fueling and goes away after a couple miles.

    Put the radio code on the list of to do things that you may never get to as you'll have more fun driving the car than listening to the radio :)

    I like your idea of the 6 in front of the 9 better than FerrariDublin's suggestion of having a "fair whack" :)
     
  11. Eric360

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    #11 Eric360, Jan 21, 2011
    Congrats on the purchase. Just think, you have the only CS with the Italian flag on the hood in the world! I kinda like the way it looks. Enjoy.
     
  12. Jagbuff

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    #12 Jagbuff, Jan 21, 2011
    Thanks for the comments, the paint job is actually growing on me...think I am going to leave as is for a while
     
  13. Oengus

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    #13 Oengus, Jan 21, 2011
    I actually looked at this car before I bought my CS :)

    Im glad that you bought it.........it will make an awesome track car + daily driver...

    I thought the paint was pretty cool :)
     
  14. andrew911

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    #14 andrew911, Jan 21, 2011
    In 20+ years this thing could be crossing the auction block somewhere with it's unique paint job, and we can all be kicking ourselves that we didn't buy it way back in 2010 :)

    I would leave the paint job and enjoy the car and decide what if anything you want to do in time.

    Much different scenario, but when I bought my 360 I thought for sure I would want to install a challenge grill, but now the all red rear has grown on me....my wife likes the all red better than the challenge grill. I probably saved myself $1,500 by just living with the car for a bit!
     
  15. Dohangs

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    #15 Dohangs, Jan 21, 2011
    Congratulations on giving that car a new home. You'll love every minute of it.
    The perfcect all around car from what I've read. Never driven one myself.
     
  16. DonJuan348

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    #16 DonJuan348, Jan 21, 2011
    <100k for CS not bad ... I like the flag by the way..
     
  17. Ingpr

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    #17 Ingpr, Jan 21, 2011
    Juan! Estas jodiendo verdad?
    Esa bandera esta fea con cojones!!
    El carro se ve bien.
     
  18. Chiaroman

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    #18 Chiaroman, Jan 21, 2011
    Enjoy many miles in good health!!!!
     
  19. DonJuan348

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    #19 DonJuan348, Jan 21, 2011
    No, de verdad, no estaba jodiendo 'mano ...me gusta la cosa asi..va con el tema del carro
     
  20. 360trev

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    #20 360trev, Jan 21, 2011
    Not sure if all you 360/430 owners know this but...

    You cannot depress the accelerator pedal during starting of the car or the Bosch Motronic ME7.3 engine management system won't work properly (may actually be causing the CEL!). The throttle is digital (2 potentiometers) and needs to be recalibrated every time the car starts so if you press it the calibration cannot take place.

    Other thing is to check if it had its ignition ecu's reflashed (recall campaign) which used to cause uneven engine starting.

    Good luck!

    PS. if you ever get bored of that flag you could always get its repainted. No big deal? Many 360's/430's have their front end resprayed due to stone chips so not all that uncommon.

    Enjoy in rude health!
     
  21. bobby355

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    #21 bobby355, Jan 21, 2011
    Wow congrats man. Best of luck!
     
  22. rmani

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    #22 rmani, Jan 22, 2011
    That's what I was thinking. Just re paint the car. As long as it's done properly and it's the same original color I can't imagine it would hurt the value that badly.
     
  23. Moopz

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    #23 Moopz, Jan 22, 2011
    IIRC, the original color of that CS was Rosso Corsa.
     
  24. TexasMike

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    #24 TexasMike, Jan 22, 2011
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    I took some pictures of the car this morning and I will post them later when i get a chance. Franck is at the track as we speak having a lot of fun. The paint job really looks pretty cool in person!
     
  25. bobby355

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    #25 bobby355, Jan 22, 2011
    Man, take that thing to the Jersey Shore and the guito chicks will line up for you!!! ;)

    I happen to like the flag though...

    Nonetheless, awesome car man congrats again.
     
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