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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by ajr550, Feb 28, 2019.
I hope they got keyless entry this time
My understanding is this time everything mechanical is going electric and everything electric is going mechanical hehe
Allocations in the USA:
Lusso: No Wait (never was)
812 SF: No Wait
Portofino: No Wait
F8: No Wait and delivery within 3 months after initial deliveries for new customers.
Pista: Good luck now and only if you get duped into the game or with sufficient history.
Except for the Pista, and rightly so, having to wait years for a regular production Ferrari has been over. Dealers actually do have a number of 488, Lussos and Portofinos brand new in their possession, just won't advertise them.
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This is now just getting too funny. F8.....”No wait....but you have to wait...”. Come on, your comments are just loaded. F8 production has not even started, there will be many customers ahead of someone who walks in now, with no history, to place an order. Minimum Q2 2020 and likely Q4 2020. That’s 18 months.
Now I don’t know the US market so I’ll just have to take your word for it - maybe others here can corroborate or otherwise your story but the real experience of people I know in the UK is as follows - mostly VIP customers;
Portofino 7 months
458 12 months, 8 months, 8 months
Speciale 12 months, 7 months, 6 months, 6 months, 6 months (4 of these were late production)
488 & Spider 15 months, 14 months, 14 months, 10 months (GTB)
Lusso 24 months
812 25 months (TM car), 16 months, 12 months (South African order) (all cars ordered around launch)
Pista 12 months (No 1 on the list at dealer), due Q3 - 18 months, Spider (TM) due Q1 - 18 months
F8 no information yet
Calculated from deposit date
There are other friends with Ferraris and customers I know and their experience feels similar though I can’t say exactly. I believe most of the rest of the world is similar to this. Clearly the US market is being oversupplied - bad luck. What I will say is that short waiting times at the end of model life has always been with us - nothing new there. Even Speciale - between my friends we got three cars in about 6 months. Incidentally, that isn’t happening with Pista, even in US it seems.
About 7am from Gatwick... got to love those early mornings
Thank you, I’ll be here all week, be sure and tip your waitress...
The US market is an entirely different animal it seems compared to Europe. We get the most allocations by far.
As mentioned before, my dealer has a few brand new cars from different models for sale. I guess European buyers are shocked by this, but that's what happens when you increase production by 40% in three years. We're crazy about SUVs and Teslas it seems.
On the contrary, i think the front end will be substantially different .
A more rounded, pointy one .
No not really, here in Switzerland not much wait neither. In fact you can get Pista trough autoscout.ch with very small premium as well. In Germany about 12 pista for sell trough mobile.de starting with almost no premium. looks like increase of production shows in the market
May 29, at 7-7.30pm (Italy time), or at least that's what some journalists have said in the past days.
Thanks you sir for bringing accurate perspective to the topic
I think it is just the Ferrari logo
We get bigger overall numbers in allocation but it's much tighter on a per customer per dealership than Europe
I have friends on both sides and have gotten a little perspective over the years
Wasted Days and Wasted Nights!
Certainly a lot of time spent waiting all detailed in a useful way. And for comparison purposes only * your times may vary.
However for the F8 the new rule here is one third of sales immediately go to buyers with ZERO Ferrari purchases in the past.
The RHD markets have their own challenges and I remember in recent times Australia getting cars when the UK was sucking wind.
There may be games being played that only Ferrari knows about conclusively.
Or you have to know who to wine and dine at the Cavallino restaurant as one German client noted previously!
I magnified X500% soo not easy to read ..you might be correct.Hmmmm
Ah the 'Wayne Newton' of Fchat!
but who is buying the next round...
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Here’s another interesting pic I found online.
We can see some angular shapes of the interior.
I hope it has up to date infotainment
Ferrari really needs to do an infotainment refresh especially since the BB will need to stay relevant for 3-5 years. The current systems from the 488 are just screen quality and speed refreshes from the first car to do the infotainment screen in driver's dash displays aka the 599.
But looking at this, it seems like it might just be another update ontop of the F8 interior, similar mid dashboard cutout with the airvents.
For 812 SF, at least for USA, there is everything from 'no wait' to up to 18 months (this in reference to allocations being awarded and production commencing, not delivery times), so, your review above is now revised for accuracy. Remember, in USA if you live within a dealer's territory you can only order with that dealer.
Why? The car should be exciting enough to not need to carry along its own entertainment, maybe a minivan would be a better choice? I really like that Ferrari, at least for its sports cars, has not gone down the road of big screens and all that, they have been the world's premiere engine builder, but maybe that doesn't matter anymore?
I certainly hope not.
As NEVER would be the best solution: