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The guy in Doncaster is called trever and his nick name is the wizzard of nos, i have been dealing with is company for over 15 years. It used to be called high Power systems, but now has changed its name. basic kits start from around £500, The progrevive controllers are not needed if the power is kept bellow 100bhp. The basic kit is good enugh for a standard ferrari aplication, and is a well made pice of kit.

 

Chaa the standard kit made by Nos to fit the Bosch injector systems on these cars is a direct port system and costs 2800+ vat i would not use the company you are talking about as i have seen there work and very unimpressed, maybe ok for a ford but not a ferrari.only my opinion though.

Andy.

 

Did you pay that price to also have it fitted? Why £1200?

 

So the price you are talking about are from the company nos, becourse for thouse who dont know nos is a trade name of the company, in the same way that fogger is also a trade name that belongs to that same company.As is the name Pulsoids (solenoids) of the High power systems.
High power systems are the UKs leading experts, who would you recomend in the UK? The nos company maybe? I also have used in the past items from the Nos company via the company Real steel, never got on with it.
I am curious to know how the nos kit system is made to fit the Bosch injector system becourse the nos system use the foggers to direct inject both fuel and nos, so there for does not touch the standard injectors.
I have always found that a person is ither a Nos man or high power man in the UK. its all good anyway its all about getting the nitrous in.

 

I never had any experiance before this with nitros so i bow to your experiance of how it works, but for the way there fitted the guy i used is near brands hatch and was top class and sooo much better than the work ive seen from wizard of nos, infact my guy stopped using that company after a lot of faulty work.

Andy.

 

Yea i see there point mate, but you have to remember that alot of people will buy the kits from Highpower and then fit them them selfs badly and then blame the company to any one who will listen about how badly it was fitted by Highpower. Its just like in the early 1980 when a company called Janspeed turbos, sold kits to anyone who would buy them, then they stoped selling the kits and insisted on doing the install at there HQ becourse so many people were fitting them so very wrong and blowing there engines, so there for the Janspeed company was getting a bad name for bad installs that they did not even do and was not down to them. so thats why they stoped selling kits out right.
So this could be said of Highpower.

 

Andy,

Who did the work for you near Brands Hatch then? That's only 10-15 mins from me so I could have a chat.

I've no interest in buying the kit and fitting it myself, or having it done by a general garage. I'd rather have someone who does nitrous for a living look at the car and advise, as it's already very non-standard.

Basically, I'd just like to chat to an installer and see what's possible.

Plus, as it'll probably go wrong, I'd like the installer to be in Kent.

Cheers,

Jas

 

F 1 Moto on the A20 his name is Nev 01474 850850

Andy

 

Andy are you talking about the motor bike specialist, i have bikes and a few of my mates have bought parts from F! moto for there street bikes. If it is the same guy we are talking about, he specialises in motor cycles and not cars so he would not be the man to talk to about Nitrous instalments on cars. If he is doing nitrous instalments on cars now he is new to the game coto someone like say trever.
Is it him?

 

Chaa it is him, hes been doing nos for years on the cars he builds for drag racing, my experiance of Nev is that he does a very neat,perfessional job but will take 2x longer than he tells you, in the time i spent there he did mine, a Lotus esprit, and a merc sport, still lots of bikes there some with Nos.

Andy.

 

And your car looks very nice mate. Do you have your nos on throttel position and switch, or just switch (go baby go)? And have you set the extra 100 bhp to come on in one hit or progresive feed? How does the 348 act traction wise, i bet it spins the wheels with a big hit dont it?
Do you ever feal like you want more but have to restrain ya self?
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Thanks Andy, I'll go and have a chat with him and see if he reckons my engine & drivetrain can handle it.

Jas

 

Is this for your TT'd elise?

btw. I used to own b10wn k - the ex. supercharged elise

 

It would be a very short warranty indeed, due to the installer not knowing the condition of your internals to your engine befor the install, ie for example your belts are 10 years old and are on the verge of breaking, or your rings or small ends are on the verge of exploding befor the install. Makes sense?
Its cases like the above that help fuel the stories of Nos trashing engines. A nos system is a bolt on conversion, unless you take your engine apart and build it from the ground up just for Nos, the only thing that the installer MAY do is change the spark plugs for a cooler grade. Fitting Nitrous is always a gamble unless you know the condition of your engine or keep the shot to very small amounts. advise you jaz to do reserch first by maybe reading books on the subject first so you have a full understanding of nitrous. Like i said i have been using it for a long time and has it on a 5+ltr twin turbo V8 with methonal injection, and my engine was built from the ground up just to be safe. Let us know how you get on.

 

Jas, Have you bought a Ferrari or is this for the Lotus?

Ken

 

Jonny5, yes I remember your car Yes, it's for the supercharged Elise. I've toyed with the idea of adding nitrous before but decided against it last time primarily because I couldn't get comfortable with the idea.

The plan is now to either upgrade it for more power, or swap the engine out entirely for a different more powerful unit. Ideally I want to get close to 500 bhp per ton from it, one way or another. Nitrous would get me to just below that target, whilst a new engine would get me above it.


Chaa, thanks, yes I've already done a reasonable amount of research into nitrous when I last considered it. The big question is whether my engine which is already supercharged and producing more than double the bhp it had when it left the factory, can handle it.......



Ken, this would be for the Elise I've still to decide what Ferrari I want, and have not yet got around to test driving a 348. I'm in no hurry for either the Ferrari, or upgrading the Elise though, so can take my time researching. Still not finished the garage yet either in fact Should be done in another week though

 

Chaa it has a full throttle switch and a main on off switch, but the best bit is the steering wheel red button. I have 100 hit stright off as i reialised i didnt need the progreesive after i bought it, the car accepts the power so smoothly it more like a power band on a bike.
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Yea nice, i notice that you have a Momo Race wheel. I have one as well but cant fit the bloody thing becourse the Torq driver sets that i have with the holes in wont fit the bloody crappy standard air bag wheel on the 355. So i hang it on the wall in the hope that one day....

 

Chaa jump in the technical section someone was asking about that just the other day and there were various links to the right tools for the job.

In fact, here you go: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58858

Ric.

 

Andy,

I called Nev and had a very long discussion, and also discussed your car at length. Sounds like you've certainly got "the best of the best" in nitrous systems fitted.

How are you finding it? Is it as impressive as you hoped? As usable as hoped?

Do you recommend it, and is there any advice you can offer?

Thanks

Jas

 

Be sure to check out all fitters, dont just jump on the first train. Check out ZEX systems, NX systems as well as Wizzard, they all claim to be the best. I do know that wizzard always have test cars for you to drive. But be awere they all pull each other down, rather like the Lambo and ferrari, scube and the evo debate.

 

Chaa

How many HP is that , must be one serious machine. Any pics

James

 

It indeed was an awsome peice of kit. It was a TR7/8 twin turbo spider. It was featured in the magazines, Street machine (2001), Custum car (2001), Triumph world (2002). The engine was a jewel to look at and was a monster to drive. It attracted alot of attension at the shows including Doncaster custum.
The whole car was based on the 1980 TR8 Lemans twin turbo. The one in the mags was my second Twin turbo that i did, the first one was lost in a methonal fire which eventualy caught the nitrous rip(1997) . Any way, i still have the articals on the fire eating nitrous farting 500+bhp monster.

 

Chaa,

Thanks, are any of these three other fitters in Kent?

Jas