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No experience...Title Insurance question

Discussion in 'New York Tri-State' started by race4s, Jan 16, 2011.

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  1. race4s

    race4s Karting
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    Nov 17, 2008
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    closing on a home in NY state, orange county. 330k purchase price.

    my bank in the good faith estimate tells me title insurance for the bank coverage is $2,500.00

    and the title insurance for me, buyer coverage is
    $1,700.00

    This seems like a lot of money.

    Is it an expense I just have to grin and bear or do I have some options.

    Thanks
     
  2. classic308

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    Sent you a pm.
     
  3. Ashman

    Ashman Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I always questioned why I had to pay title insurance on my equity when I was also paying for title insurance on the bank loan. I figured that the bank was putting up most of the money and, if they were comfortable with the title, I would be too.

    It never got me off of paying for the title insurance on my share of the purchase price though!

    My lawyers always instructed me to bring plenty of checks to a real estate closing. Everyone has their hand out for a piece of the action.
     
  4. jsanocki

    jsanocki Formula Junior

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    check out www.entitledirect.com If they do NY (I don't know for certain) their premiums are 35% less.

    All other title companies use regulated pricing and do not vary.
     
  5. classic308

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    Yep-but don't forget that a good portion of the closing costs here in NY are mortgage and transfer taxes-no way around them...........astronomical recording fees here also. NY has the highest closing costs in the country-and I live in the county with the highest taxes in the U.S......
     
  6. classic308

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    #6 classic308, Jan 17, 2011
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    Old Republic's premiums are 15% higher on all purchase transactions under $1M; above a $1m they are all equal. Most of the major national underwriters deviated 15% lower about 5 years ago.

    There are other ancillary costs outside of the premiums-building, bankruptcy, patriot and other municipal searches that are NOT regulated.
     
  7. ducowti

    ducowti Formula 3

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    #7 ducowti, Jan 17, 2011
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    Just closed on a re-fi here (W'chstr) as well...the costs are ridiculous.
     
  8. dwhite

    dwhite F1 Rookie

    I sold title insurance in NY for 3 years prior to the real estate collapse. It is not mandatory, however no bank will loan you money with out them being covered. Simo - fee(owner) and bank recieve a major discount on the total. Entitle does do NY and why not check them out. Otherwise you can look at the larger companies who have loads of funds in reserve if they had to make a payout. One other tidbit you may want to consider, your insurer may offer an endorcement to keep the insurance escalating with the value of the property, usually very cheap and if your house does go up in value substancially you have no loss whatsoever. Good luck and enjoy Orange County.
     
  9. classic308

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    Market Value Rider endorsements are 10% of the premium.
     

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