No more Windows XP

Vista is truly a piece of garbage. Time to shift to Unix or a Mac. Microsoft is just so out of touch. Gates is gone so even the rats know when to abandon ship.

 

I am told that Microsoft will still support XP until Windows 7 comes out, they just are not going to be selling which is a shame.

 

Do you have Vista?

I have never had one SINGLE problem that was vista specific. My only complaint is the shear size of the OS. It's 20x the size of XP. Outside of that.... Vista has been a dream.

 

Wow! Someone who actually doesn't listen to Apple's propaganda showing the "cool, thin, hip, intune with today" Mac lovin guy vs the "clueless, dufus looking, balding, overweight middle aged loser looking" PC guy. And I thought I was the only one.

 

Although dufus looking notice that he's more personable than his counterpart.

 

And what do you do with Vista?

 

from any tech support anywhere in the world hearing the customer has "Vista" or "Norton" creates the same reaction... "OH Dear God....."

 

I run lots of enginerding software like MatLab, MathCad, Hysis, lots of MS office applications. I also use CyberDVD to watch Blu Ray movies. In my spare time, I play games as well. (recently installed a GTX 280)

What do YOU do with your OS?

 

So, technically, you are not really pushing the envelope of Vista. Everything you have there is Vista ready. Normal people who have small business programs, calandaring apps, etc. that were designed for XP are having errors spat back at them when they upgraded to Vista. Backward compatibility was sort of an afterthought at Microsnot.

 

Now, now children!.....

Luke, even you must surely admit that Vista has, on the whole, been a technical and marketing *disaster* for the evil empire - A technical **** up was always expected (They never get it close to right until SP2 or 3 appears) but in the past their marketing muscle has got them through. This time even that was a disaster - "Vista compatible" didn't actually mean it'll run properly on your shiny new box, in fact that label came about because Micro$oft wanted to help Intel shift some old motherboards.

[See: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,147678-c,techindustrytrends/article.html]

Intel have returned the favor by announcing they're not going to "upgrade" their 80,000 PC's to Vista because it brings *nothing* significant to the party.

Only the empire could attempt to kill an OS that works (as well as anything they do really works of course!) in order to *force* satisfied users to a new OS.......

As always, just my 02c,
Cheers,
Ian

 

Not to switch this into a Vista bash thread, but here is a noteworthy article

Vista's big problem: 92 percent of developers ignoring it

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9969231-16.html

 

Thanks for posting the link - I honestly believe Vista is dead in the water - Apparently, the empire has two development teams that "leapfrog" each other:

1. Did Windoze 98, [EDIT: Sorry, I meant XP not NT as originally posted] and is doing Version 7.
2. The other did ME and Vista.

See anything significant there?

Cheers,
Ian

 

No... I can't. I've been running Vista 64 bit for 2 years now. I was running 32 bit previously. I am not exactly running software that you can pick up at the average Best Buy. I have built SEVEN computers with Vista home Premium. I have built six HTCP setups with Vista Home Basic.

Marketing nightmare? Maybe it was a nightmare because of a lack of marketing. If you ask me, the whole thing was more political than anything. Vista's entire life has been a smear campaign run by Apple and ill-motivated bloggers that just don't have enough self confidence to run a MS operating system and still feel cool.

I seriously have not encountered any troubles. If you have.... post them!?! I don't want to hear "Vista didn't recognize my 12 year old bubble jet".

 

I suspect you're going to be sorry you asked

Here's one to get you started - and we're not talking about even one year old machines:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=9141

I would say you've been very fortunate - Good for you! As for an Apple smear campaign and/or bloggers who don't get it, even Walt Mossberg (a *huge* Microsoft apologist BTW) admits it's a POS.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Thirteen times?

Maybe I am just more motivated to do updates and fixes than most people :shrug:

What I have noticed through various builds is that driver issues and hardware issues tend to get blamed on Vista.

 

How about this. You article likes like a 'fad' article; but none the less.

For every bad you can display, I'll show a good one. Here is a thread of computer builders reacting to the same "no more xp" article.

http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=24405

 

What? Is that for real?

 

I believe so - I can't now remember where I read it, but the story is two, basically independent, teams. My understanding is the people who did XP are doing Windows 7, while the ME group did Vista - Not exactly a great pedigree (If true)

Cheers,
Ian

 

No doubt! However, you are obviously an "expert" - It sounds like you build the machines yourself and have the technical ability to install (and remove - remember the original SP1 that broke more than it fixed?) drivers etc. Most of the people that this POS (IMHO) is targeted to don't have that expertise - It said "Vista compatible" on the box, so they expect it to run out of the box. It would be even better if it worked with their existing peripherals rather than force the purchase of new printers / scanners etc.

I used to build my own boxes, and was used to the almost constant battle to keep "stuff" up to date and working. Not to mention keeping viruses/spyware/adware etc off the damn things.

Then I switched to Apple when OSX came out ("It's a Unix box, and I'm a Unix hacker of the old school") - I can honestly say I never expected to become a "fanboy", but concede that I have, and for all the right reasons - Open the box, plug it in, and IT JUST WORKS!......

I don't want to turn this into an Apple -v- Micro$oft pi$$ing contest but do feel that the empire is doing the market a huge disservice by attempting to kill off XP and force people who are happy with it to Vista. [Is it still an extra $50 if you want XP rather than Vista from Dell? - That's just wrong IMHO!]

As always, just my 02c,
Cheers,
Ian

 

hmm.. Vista works like a dream for me..
not an apple user..
but would get the new 3Giphone

oh.. yeah. not a fan of Google too!!!

but thats just me

 

You know... I considered 'switching sides' for the sole reason that I always loved my iPods and the service available for them.

But then I bought an iTouch and found out it didn't run on my 64bit OS. I was furious. (apple has since rectified this.)

But I took that opportunity to sell my iTouch and get a 2nd generation Zune 4 gig. I LOVE THAT THING. My iPods would occassionally freeze and what not but I could fix that. My zune has never even hiccuped. I guess I am a MS fanboi :shrug:

 

As an XP user, I just don't see the point of Vista. It takes more resources, and does the same thing that my XP does. I run legal software, design software like Maya and Solidworks, MS Office, Adobe suites, various DVD burners and multi-media players, etc. I also regularly and extensively edit, manage and enjoy movies, photographs, music, flash presentations, documents, etc., publish stuff to the web, and of course use various web browsers extensively. I also dabble in programming and mainly use the Flex development environment. XP does all this and is stable. Why do I need to spend additional money and go through a (minor) learning curve for Vista? I have played around with it on friends' computers and it seems to do the same things. So why upgrade? It's not like I run RAID arrays out of my laptop. I can function in Unix and Mac OSes and various Linux flavors. I don't care to...I am at my most productive on the PC because it is what I am used to and it is what I use the most (I know, vicious cycle, but it works for me).

As for Vista marketing, it is a complete disaster. My eyes glaze over when I read about the various flavors of Vista and what comes with what and requires what and can or cannot do what. Stupid!

I would absolutely upgrade from XP if there was a compelling reason to do so. There isn't. Now that it's functional and stable and somewhat decent to use, Microsoft needs to rethink it's entire interface paradigm for there to be a big step forward. I keep hearing about mutli-touch, gestures, etc. Maybe those, along with better context-sensitivity and mission-oriented rather than task-oriented software design, will help bring about the next level of productivity enhancement. Or maybe the PC will be replaced by webtops with an interface to some google environment where things are done on your behalf at huge server farms via high speed wireless/cellular links.

 

I was deployed to appease a client who had purchase two new PCs that were uncooperative. The usual SMB (one NT domain controller and several 2000 and XP workstations). The company was hoping to save some money by sourcing the new PCs themselves but they neglected to consult with anyone prior to and ended up with Vista on both. Unfortunately Vista was not compatible with their version of Symantec AntiVirus Enterprise Edition (Installed on the DC which pushed out updates to workstations).

The choices were:

1. Return and exchange the new PCs (Oh NO, Mr. Big made the decision to buy those)

2. Upgrade the antivirus solution (for licenses and labor that'll cost HOW MUCH??!!)

3. Buy two licensed copies of XP, do a format and install, including all apps, printers and customize for end users (how many labors hours for that x two? Cost HOW MUCH??!!)

4. Buy a stand-alone anti-virus solution and "make it work" (DO IT!)

I'll have to admit... it was a challenging task and getting Vista Home to work on an old NT domain was more than fun

Oh, and one of their printers was incompatible as well