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Discussion in '308/328' started by Gary Howell, Jun 26, 2021.

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  1. Gary Howell

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    I’ve recently seen videos in which someone put after market shocks on their 308. In another video a guy bought one that had trouble starting. His commentary was that a fuel pump is a fuel pump, so he went to discount auto parts and bought a random fuel pump to put in his 308. So my question is, can non OEM parts like these, make a Ferrari 308 / 328 more reliable? This coming from someone who has no interest in doing a concours restoration but instead wants to drive one everywhere.


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  2. thorn

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    #2 thorn, Jun 26, 2021
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    ... which indicates he knows very little about fuel pumps. Do you get the impression these 2 pumps have identical specs and performance?

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    There is good content on youtube, from people who actually know what they're doing. There is also a lot more garbage advice, generally uploaded by people who are far more concerned with Clicks that whether or not it screws up your car or your bank account.
     
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  3. Dave Bertrand

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    Some aftermarket parts may make these cars more reliable, but generally it's because certain original parts are known to be problematic. I'm like you - I want to drive my car a lot and I'm not concerned about originality as my car will never be a concours competitor. That said, I have a marked preference for OEM replacement parts whenever they're available. I'm sure everyone agrees on that.

    As for a fuel pump being a fuel pump, thorn is right on. Lots of info on the web, but you have to be really careful about the source. I don't know about 308/328 fuel pumps, but that's a part that needs to be replaced with another of the same specs.
     
  4. Brian Harper

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    I was making biscuits and the recipe called for some baking powder. I didn't have any so I used some cream of tartar that was in the cupboard. Looked the same to me, a fine white powder. Probably is the same, the baking powder cartel just wants you to buy more stuff.

    Biscuits didn't turn out right. Maybe the flour is old.
     
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  5. ginoBBi512

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    I have an 89 328, and have been fortunate enough to be able to buy all OEM parts , either elected for my restoration, or that needed to be replaced, this over my 22 years of ownership. I did have to replace the AC pump with something other than the factory York unit, that being a Sanden unit.So since most of the parts are still available, OEM, thats what you should buy, other than wanting to maybe upgrade the shocks, I replaced all mine with the OEM Konis. The 3x8s are very reliable, there are fellows on here that have did some improvements , someone designed a better fuse board for the 3x8 s. I actually had mine rebuilt, it lasted 35 years, so why not.

    Thank you
     
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  6. QV308

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    If you want to drive your car regularly then I think that’s a compelling enough reason to stay away from some of the aftermarket alternatives. Taking your fuel pump example, the savings on buying an aftermarket alternative to the original Bosch K-Jet in-line pump (which is still available) aren’t particularly significant, given the value of the car and your intention to use it.

    Nothing comes for free, so if a copy product is ‘like for like’ but 75% cheaper than the OE item then there’s a reason; different raw materials / inputs, questionable manufacturing process control and quality systems, unknown product validation requirements etc.
    Not saying they’re all bad, but the original $$ saving from the purchase of an inferior product can be quickly lost if your car is stuck somewhere due to component failure.
     
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  7. Portofino

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    They are not expensive cars to run compared to modern electrotwackerey ECU dominated parts cars .
    Additionally there is the not inconsiderable rising value angle which provenance plays a heavy part .
    Folks ( tinternet is a encyclopaedia) look for none molested OEM supported cars .

    Details the devil is always in the details keep it as much as poss OEM .

    Birdmans or other fuse box up grade is a 50 / 50 neutral .Will not harm it .
     
  8. wildcat326

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    Some things, like the Birdman fuse box, Electromotive xdi electronic ignition, and FerrariStarters gear reduction starter motor will improve smooth running and reliability. Can personally attest to the before and after. Other “performance upgrades” like stiffer/lighter shocks, bigger brakes, bigger aluminum radiator, etc are up to personal taste (how you feel about the handling). You’re not likely to make the car faster without significant engine rebuilding. But don’t mess around with swapping normal wear parts or mechanicals for non-OEM unless you want to experience that baking analogy above.
     
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  9. tazz99

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    There is a sticky near the top of this section with 20 pages of parts cross references. I personally think it is madness to spend 3X the money for an identical Bosch part just because it comes in a pretty yellow box with horses on it. YMMV.
     
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  10. Hannibal308

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    My vetroresina runs a bunch of hidden aftermarket stuff. But I drive it all the time. Modern spade fuse box, aeroquip oil and fuel lines, Hardi fuel pump, modern radiator fans, 348 discs up front...for a driver, “original” stuff, which in nearly all cases to this day, are crap, makes little sense. I have three 308s and three working BCD fuel pumps on a shelf...the Hardis are 1000% better and the BCDs are not easily replaced when they go tits up.
     
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  11. ginoBBi512

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    I say, to each his own, as long as your Ferrari is in tip top form, and running to your full on satisfaction , all will be well, and your smiles per miles will be just delightful .

    Thank you
     
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    I am proud and feel so full on satisfied with my 89 328 in its present form , including a killer 4500.00 sound system, that sounds absolutely insane, now that my fuse board was completely rebuilt. My car will not be sold to anybody when my time comes, I will donate it to the Peterson Auto Museum in Los Angeles, I cant be worried about how its being taken car of , from up above ! lol I will always know where to look whenever I feel like admiring it. lol Now I have to figure out where all my motorcycles are going to be kept, God know how many more I will have by that time.


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  13. bertrand328

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    OP talk about OEM / aftermarket parts, you talk about 40 years old manufactured parts VS modern material. Not the same debate
     
  14. Hannibal308

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    Sorry. I’m too stupid to understand what you said.
     
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  15. bertrand328

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    I never spoke of someone's stupidity since I am here !
     
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  16. Hannibal308

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    You did not. I’m telling you that I’m too stupid to understand what you said. Not your fault. I just don’t know the difference between aftermarket and new/modern parts. Honestly, I don’t care. I put reliable parts on my cars. All of them. I keep old parts if they work, just in case one day someone needs the old parts.
     
  17. 308 milano

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    I needed a new aerial switch and finally found an NOS at Maranello Concessionaires. Said they would ship it out right away. OEM and $430 US dollars BUT They sent it royal mail. Tracking showed it landing in Chicago 29 days ago. Will be very surprised if I ever see it. Would have loved to use an aftermarket part but the only one close was one sold from SJ sports cars (Lotus) and the posts were different and possibly the finish? Guess it is serves me right for getting in a hurry.
     

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