Non US Spec TR

I wouldn't say considerably less, but a little less yes. It's hard to quantify how much but from what I've seen I'd say 5-10k$ less. Again, just my own impression of the US market but I also often find that euro TRs in the US are generally less in good shape that US ones. You often see them in not so reputable cash-for-cars places or dragging themselves in ads for years. That said there is no reason to think you couldn't find a great one, but it might be a little harder.

 

Hard to understand why they are Worth less. They have the more attractive rear bumper and no side markers. I personally prefer the euro. Also no stupid mouse trap belts.

 

1. I'd discount a stock euro F113A engine more than stock euro F113B engine.

2. Many US states aren't fussy about emissions, but, if either doesn't have a US legal exhaust system = limits the resale market, and can be expensive to get US legal.

3. If "converted" well = maybe not a minus; if "converted" poorly (or converted OK and then rehacked again) = minus. I.e., the actual condition/state of an individual euro TR now living in the US is important to know/understand to set value.

JMOs...

 

I inderstand now. I never think about smog because we don't have it where I live. But yes that is a big concern. Thanks for explanation Steve.

 

I owned a Euro TR. Better looking. Slightly more HP. Considerably lighter weight. Seems a Euro should be worth more!

 

These cars were imported and exported a lot due to currency fluctuations and availability. The first TRs were sent to the USA since we never got the boxer, so those in Europe and the middle east eager for the car bought them here and exported them.

TRs were then bought and held as investments during the late 80s/early 90s Ferrari values boom, and there were massive waiting lists and 50% markups on sticker. So if a wealthy German wanted a TR and a waiting list spot opened up (or was sold) in the USA, it was bought new here but immediately exported and never registered here. This is likely what happened with your car.

You can find out for sure if your car is US spec by using this VIN decoder:

http://www.***********.com/forums/ferrari-registry/7723-vin-decoder.html

 

Personally, I would want any car I buy to be US 50 state legal, especially since I'm in Cali. Many a Ferrari winds up in Cali at one time or another since it is a big market. It can get VERY expensive to get a euro spec car into the US if not legal. Yes, you can jump through hoops, license it in Montana, drive to shows only and all the gimmicks, but is it worth it for a car that you can get that is fully legal? I don't think so. Remember, you are not talking about a super rare, "one off" car owned by the Queen of Shiba here. It is a TR.....

 

Better use this one: Red Headed - VIN Decoder

 

Even if the VIN decodes as a US version TR, the TR SPC indicates that US TR "delivered at the factory" had bypass pipes in the exhaust system instead of precats+cats. Of course, when brought into the US, it should've had precats and cats added, but many US TR delivered in the US have been (illegally) modified -- so it still makes $s sense IMO to understand/confirm just what exhaust system configuration is on the car now to assess value.

 

Sorry, I didn't know Ferrari Lif was taboo here! Why is this...did the owners of both have a falling out?

 

Please also note that "US version" can also mean that the car was delivered new to Canada or Mexico or so ...