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Not All Michelin Cup 2 Tires are Created Equal - Behind the Scenes of Making Bespoke Tires

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  1. stuntman

    stuntman Karting

    May 23, 2005
    84
    West Palm, FL
    Hey guys,

    Check out my article where I dive deep in to tire technology and the effort Michelin puts into making bespoke OEM tires for a specific car model. This is written from my experience as a development driver working on creating bespoke tires for cars like the GT350/R, GT500/CFTP, and Ford GT. These concepts apply across Michelin's product line and the same amount of effort goes into creating tires for performance cars as they do for sedans, trucks, SUVs, transit vans, etc...


    The article explains why replacing an OEM tire with a wider tire of the same model (even with thicker tread) will likely hurt performance, feel, be slower on track, and (if driven at the limit), will often NOT last longer. There is far more that goes into making your factory tires than you might ever have expected.


    Not All Michelin Cup 2 Tires Are Created The Same - For good reason.


    They may look the same, smell the same, and be the exact same size; but not all Cup 2 tires are created equal, and for good reason. Michelin produces off-the-shelf tires as well as custom bespoke tires that are engineered with specific construction, tread design, and compounding for a given car. Choosing the wrong Cup 2 tire can greatly impact the handling, feel, fitment, and performance of your car in terms of seconds per lap! Because of this, unknowingly swapping to a wider Cup 2 that has a less aggressive compound can actually make your car slower than using a smaller, stickier Cup 2 that was engineered specifically for your car, so pay attention!

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    In the article

    -Michelin's development of bespoke tires for race cars and OEM street cars
    -What goes into tire TREAD DESIGN: Tread Depth, Circumferential Grooves, Outer Shoulder Features & Sipes
    -What goes into tire COMPOUNDING: Compound Variation Across Tread & Tread Depth
    -What goes into a tire's CONSTRUCTION: Carcass Profile/Shape, Width, Ribs, Sidewall Stiffness,
    -Cup 2R
    -Cup 2 Connect
    -How Tread Design, Compounding, and Construction Come Together
    And much more...


    Enjoy!
     
  2. Kenny94945

    Kenny94945 Karting

    Nov 1, 2003
    214
    Marin Calif
    I thought your article was well written. I may even have learned something :) Thank you.
     
  3. stuntman

    stuntman Karting

    May 23, 2005
    84
    West Palm, FL
    Thanks for the feedback! :)

    This article also applies for bespoke Michelins made for Ferraris.
     
  4. Solid State

    Solid State F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 4, 2014
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    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    Site is blocked on my browser. Are you saying bespoke applies to the K2 designation on the MPSS as well? Many here debate going to the off-the-shelf MPS4 for newer Michelin but they lack the Ferrari K2 specific designation. What say you?
     
  5. stuntman

    stuntman Karting

    May 23, 2005
    84
    West Palm, FL
    Try looking now.

    Yes this applies to bespoke K2 MPSS. Off The Shelf (OTS) PS4s are typically faster than OTS PSSs due to better and newer compounds and constructions. However some bespoke PSS tires can be much faster than OTS PSS and similar/little faster/little slower than OTS PS4S. It's hard to say unless I talk to the Michelin engineers that worked on those K2 tires.
     

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