not ferrari but would appreciate advice all the same...

I for quite some time have been a fan of the lancia delta integrale. there is one in my local area that has been sat on a drive for at least 2 years too my knowledge and has probably been there a lot longer than that. its in terrible condition and with it being a lancia, it rusts! in fact it has quite a bit of rust! im young, dont have a large income but i want to save the car. was just wondering not for driving purposes because i could not afford the insurance yet but as a sunday hobby to fix the thing up, ball park does anyone have any idea what an operation like this costs? i seem to remember a thread on a 205 gti under similar circumstances

 

Awesome! Great hobby
My father when was young bought a military 1945 Jeep Willys, it was in bad conditions, and now, it's great and 100% original

 

The 205GTi was mine, I ended up selling it on as it was beyond economical repair in my opinion. You'll most likely find the same with the Lancia. I bought another 205GTi that was already sorted and mechanically sound for probably a third of what my restoration would have cost

 

dont do it!!!! I brought my Lotus Sunbeam as a non runner, but with next to zero rust (garaged for 15 years) and then proceeded to spend the better part of £15k on it. And now its just in storage again!!!!!

 

If its in your way I will take it off your hands for £2k

Seriously though as the others say it could easily be far too uneconomical. Also is it definitely an Integrale and not a standard Delta badged up. A friend has a concours white integrale and he also has a delta turbo thats a rust bucket. He said he was keeping it just for the engine. Main differences are flared arches and (I think) Lhd only on Integrales

 

Officially yes, but there are RHD conversions out there.

 

as far as i know it is an integrale, LHD flared wheel arches etc... Thanks for the advice rob! i mght go and give a knock on the guys door and find out a bit more about it all the same. does al, (as in alsautomotives) still post on here? hes based in south wales and would appreciate his advice/ rough quote. or has he abondoned f-chat for club scud?

 

I am still around
Call in anytime - there's usually a few things in various states of disrepair that might give you an idea of what is involved.
(Ignore the address on the website though - same postcode, but Unit F!!)
Cheers, Al.

 

A freind of mine bought one from Autotrader and did not take anyone with him to veiw the car that had any mechanical knowledge (he certainly has none!) He then took it to a specialist (Tank Barrett comes to mind) whom upon inspecting it said that it had rusted around the front bulkhead which apparently is an achilles heel of these cars, and it was going to have to have the engine out to effect repairs....... anyhow the car had such a lot wrong with it that my pal had'nt noticed that the quote to enable an MOT was around £5K........ total value of car when done.......£5k.........Caveat Emptor!

 

Hi Graham, how is the Dino coming along?? Coloured yet? (& more to the point, do you like the colour?)

 

Jason,


Go into this with your eyes open. If you really, really fancy the project and you know it will probably be uneconomic, both in cash and personal time terms, but you still want to do it... that is your free choice.


Remember the car hasn't been used, therefore:
1) Any water leaks will not get dried out by the heating ventilation, hence hidden rust, weak floors, strange mildew.
2) The engine has been static, two cylinders will be open (valves depressed). Those valve springs will be wrecked, there will be moisture in the bores and possible corrosion. The water pump and other shafts will have rust and the oil seals will all be suspect. You might be lucky, but allow for a full rebuild.
3) Gearbox, likewise the shafts will have rust and will need polishing, the seals will be wrecked. The rest of the gearbox should be okay (fairly well sealed and full of oil)
4) Everything electrical will have surface corrosion, switches may be iffy, multiplugs will not connect properly, alternator, motors, windscreen wipers, fans will all need a bit of TLC and it all takes time to sort. Even lamp holders will be suspect.


Draw up a budget... list absolutely every job you might need to do. Then assign cost for parts and time for you labour. I know you're doing this for fun, but it is still useful to know how much of your time will be consumed. And remember as you try to save cost, by refurbishing the existing, this cost you more of your time:

eg: buy recon starter motor and fit say £80 and 1/2hr to fit it
strip your starter motor, fit brushes, rebuild and fit say £15 and 3hrs of your time

When you add all the tasks up, you'll get an idea of what you are getting into.


If you have already imagined all the above work and more and you want to do it, I hope you really enjoy the project. The Delta was a nice car.

Best wishes,

David.

 

Hi Al, No we have the paint but my painter still has not squirted it over the car!......... at least when i get it back together it will be over 25 years old now and RFL exempt....... its the only plus side i can think of to keep me in good spirits!
Cheers, Graham.

 

Done

 

agree with hazy you'll muck about with it forever,dont touch it,let it rot away the best life for them things.

 

yes we know just get to the point,it's scrap.

 

Not tracked it this year Haze? Lost interest or just using CS more? I loved being chucked around in theat pocket rocket

 

Well that's a fair summary, but with a little enthusiasm... who knows?


David

 

cheers for the advice from all of u, i shall listen to those who have been there and done it and just giv it a miss.

 

Ok no problem Ad. I will get my friend Prince Onga Bonga from Nigeria to send you a cheque.

 

Its really a case of going in with your head as well as your heart.

I did this with a Lotus. I paid £1200, spent £1300 on it then gave up as it still had so much wrong with it. I ended up selling it for £500 3 years later.

 

Er maybe not, the exemption is for vehicles registered before 1972.

 

Yes someone sent me a PM pointing this out......... it goes to show how long ago i last had a classic........ oh well you can live in hope!

 

Jason,


Ahh... now I feel kind of guilty for putting you off the idea. Still, save the money you would have spent and put it into a fighting fund for something better... whatever that happens to be.

Good luck.


David

 

dont feel guilty! i started the thread to get feed back. i needed to know whether it would be worth it and clearly from all of your responses it isnt. as for something better, that just means im gona have to work harder to get myself a ferrari!

 

Its a cracking tool Si but it just felt wrong battering it around a track. Me and Radders have brought a full on race prepped BMW M3 to track and race next year. Team 187 go racing!!!!!!!

No way, Onga still owes me for my 355