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Not Matched Numbers value?

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  1. Sergio Tavares

    Sergio Tavares Formula 3

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    If the transmission is wrong one of the car, what value to price?
     
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    I can’t answer that question but it seems to me that “numbers matching” years ago was an American obsession especially with muscle cars and Corvettes.

    It seems to me that 20 or 25 years ago collectible Italian cars didn’t suffer that burden.

    As I remember the concern was for the “correct” engine and other components, not necessarily the original component.

    Do I remember correctly or am I off base?
     
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    “Numbers Matching” Is super subjective and has to be debated on a case by case basis and is valued by rarity and pecking order. It’s not a blanket assumption. If it’s a 206GT it’s much different than valuing a 246 E Series. An original documented Flares and Chairs example is on another value scale. The rarity of the option and the desirability drives the prices up. Rarity alone is not enough. Some enthusiasts value the emotional impact of what’s offered over originality and Numbers Matching. One only has to look at the Porsche Outlaw Hot Rod movement to see this. Numbers Matching if all things are equal will make a Dino more aspirational no question and most likely more valuable. There’s a Dino for all budgets and every Dino is rare, beautiful and worth collecting.
     
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    I think, that Sergio is referring to the transmission numbers quagmire for the L series on BaT.
    Someone has asked that same question about this issue, with no reply. o_O

    Personally, I would want an original one, on a 206 or an L, as very low number production cars.
    Besides, quite different technically from the latter models.
    Fully agree with Freeman, after all where do you find an original tranny to these 2 models?

    Regards, Alberto
     
  5. 4CamGT

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    As long as it’s a bolt on component, I would choose the best option as it becomes available. Change out the gearbox if an original or even the #’s matching component becomes available to keep your Dino in service. I just came back from a few days at Porsche. I was able to tour their Classic department behind the scenes. Porsche is offering brand new engine cases for most generations of air-cooled 911’s. They have an internal number stamped on the cases so they know it’s a replacement case even if the original numbers are stamped in the standard location. Future generations of enthusiasts are interested in keeping their classics in service. Many that are concerned about damaging the original drivetrains can safely store the originals and enjoy a brand new motor, even uprated w/o sacrificing the original. I love how Porsche is supporting and embracing the enthusiast!
     
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    Well Freeman, Porsche is somewhat "Spezial". You are so lucky to have had the "Pope's Tour"!

    As far as locating an L transmission, I seriously think not.
    Clearly, one can always try :) Took me 8 years too find my L (leather) steering wheel.

    Regards, Alberto
     
  7. Sergio Tavares

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    We see the $200k penalty
     
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    I think this is a very highly skewed number to throw out. Very unrealistic to say this is the amount of vehicle should be deducted.
     
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