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  1. whammy

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    Thanks Taz, yes I thought they were too high at about 36-38. Seemed to lose adhesion too easily.
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  2. tazandjan

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    You were just riding on the center patches at those pressures. May take a little fiddling to get them perfect. That is what the factory did with OEM tires. Trial and error.
     
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  3. Mel Spillman

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    Michelin recommends front 29 psi and rear at 26 psi. That's what I am using on mine and works great.
     
  4. whammy

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    Mel, Thanks I couldn't find anything official. 29 and 26 seems very low. Even at 32 I get wear marks well down the shoulder. I'll try it based on your good experience.
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  5. tazandjan

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    Mel- Michelin has a recommendation for their tires on NF2s on a 456?

    Ferrari recommends tire pressures based on empirical test data on each car/tire combination.
     
  6. Mel Spillman

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    Just a general Michelin recommendation for those tire sizes. I believe they base those low pressures on the heat the larger tires would generate.
     
  7. puckybadger

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    I run 32 front and rear on my 2002 456M GT with NF2's. MPPS 255/35/19 (96Y) & 345/30ZR19 (109Y)
     
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  8. tazandjan

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    Same thing I ran on my 575M when I had NF2s.
     
  9. F456M

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    My tires were quickly worn on the outsides with original spec pressure. The ture shop guys say 30-32 is too low. They say all the way up to 40 is right. Difficult to know who to trust. A multimillion car company or a proper tire expert who base their words out of the experience of seeing hundreds of tires being worn uneavenly.... when going from 30-40 psi the ride is another world. Rolls much easier, but with much less comfort!
     
  10. tazandjan

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    Erik- That is also caused by hard cornering. See that myself. Higher pressures will not fix that, but will beat up your (not the 550's) rear and suspension components.
     
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  11. Gileshanna

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    Hi Taz / All.
    Very new to all this and know my aircooled P-cars. This is totally new for me.
    With my C4 as long as the rolling radius is within 4% of f>rear wheels, providing it fits anything goes.
    With regards to the electronics on 456s am I correct in understanding that I need to calculate the stock rolling radius from the oem tyre size ( using something like will they fit.com ) then calculate my tyre sizes / rim width to be 5% of this oem figure?
    .... I have some rial 19” Daytona’s Race 2 piece wheels that I’d like to relip on my future car.
    .... would it be fair to suggest it doesn’t matter what the lip size is etc ( providing they fit ) as long as the final rolling radius is within 5% of the oem rolling radius size ?
    + is there a tolerance to in which the front to rear wheels need to be in overall rolling radius? Ie they must be within x%.

    Forgive me for being new to all this, however interested in your response.
    Thx all. Giles
     
  12. tazandjan

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    The only thing ABS cares about is the difference in diameter/radius/circumference (same ratio whatever you use, diameter easiest) front to rear. More than about 5% different from OEM ratio, and the ABS ECU gets unhappy.
     
  13. Mel Spillman

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    I have a set of Gloss Black Novitec NF2 for sale in Ferrari parts forum. 19" f and 20" rear. Also have a set of silver 19" rears only, NF 2's. Novitec spacers for the rear are included.
     
  14. nini

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    in Fact this my car with asanti wheels LOL
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Auraraptor

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    Interesting. Did you take the photo or was it a previous owner?
     
  17. scowman

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    I have 1995 456GT with 25mm type two spacers on the rear.

    Just bought set of NF2s. 9Jx19H2 fronts and 12.5Jx19H2 rears.

    I think I read a post where a good combo to get the same front/rear diameter is 255/35/19 front and 345/35/19 rear.

    Is that correct or is there a better tire size setup? I see a lot of different height combos mentioned. Hard to know what is best.

    Thanks,

    Ken
     
  18. Auraraptor

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    #118 Auraraptor, Apr 15, 2023
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    I would avoid 35 profile in rears..too tall

    I made a thread on this very topic about a year ago; the original size is NLA but there is a close enough still available:
    • 345/30-19
    • Original was 355/25-19 FWIW
     
  19. scowman

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    Thanks for the help. So fronts are good at 255/35/19 and 35/30 difference front to rear will not mess up the ABS?
     
  20. scowman

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    Misunderstood the aspect. They are really close in size. Thanks
     
  21. scowman

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    Anyone know what year/make/model lists the 345/30/19 as stock? Cannot get any online retailer to sell them to me without that.

    Thanks.
     
  22. tazandjan

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    None, most likely. Closest would be a Viper. 2016 used 355/30 19 rears.
     
  23. scowman

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    #123 scowman, Apr 15, 2023
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    So how do people manage to buy them? Costco/Discount/Tire Rack all require vehicle info to purchase.

    Ebay I guess...
     
  24. Auraraptor

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    I’m traveling so the above sizes were from memory. If 345 now nla (if so, that would be strange because I could’ve swore Michelin and continental both make tires in that size) then agree 355/30 next best.

    on most of the websites you can select EITHER by size or model….

    Also, if you’re going to 355/30, personally, I would favor 265 fronts for better balance but each his own
     
  25. scowman

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    It is not that they do not have them, they do. It is that most of the online websites MAKE you enter a vehicle, and if "IT DOES NOT FIT" they do not let you check out. Instead you need to purchase one of the approved tire sizes. Costco has been doing this for a while now but it seems the lawyers are getting their grubby hands on everything now.

    UGH!!!
     

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