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OFF COLOR, BEATER FERRARI'S

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by thecarreaper, Nov 23, 2003.

  1. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
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    i am in the market for a 308. i am seeking good bad and ugly facts and opinions from members on off color,modified and " neglected beater" fcars. mondail and 308gt4 cars are welcome as i may get one instead of a 308. muscle cars are all almost sold, garage is empty ( almost!) please bear in mind that i am an aircraft mechanic (experimental) and will be doing all the work myself as a labor of love and i will be in no hurry. i am single with a house, garage, tools ect. air conditioning, minor accident repairs, owner mods, color..... not a big concern. i have ALWAYS wanted one, its just a car. i can fix it. depriciation and resale are of no concern. i am going to drive the sheet out of it ( on a track not on public roads.... no hate mail ).
    anyone here get one to fix because of what it represents to <YOU>, to preserve the car instead of it becoming parts on the shelf of a wharehouse????? i can/will expand on this with input from members. i hope my questions are not too vaugue! my mindset is i would rather get a "beater" and fix it right with my own two hands rather than pay $25k-30k for a car that may develop " issues" later. thanks for your time and any help. michael
     
  2. jimpo1

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    There was a pretty trashed GT4 in the Dallas area earlier this year for under $10k. I think it needed a head gasket along with mucho interior and body work. If you're looking for a track car, it might be a good choice.

    Tillman, where are you? Do you know where this car is? Is it still behind the palm readers place?
     
  3. andrewg

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    wasnt there a Grey 308 in need of head work (think it was Matt Lemus's) up for sale a month or so ago?
     
  4. BigTex

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    Good luck to you reaper!

    I talked to a dealer that had a pretty sound '78308GTB. Grey/Oxblood
    Call Harry Kaufman at harrystoys.com. $23,9K.

    He was up front, said it had bad synchros, 2 & 3, I think.

    Actually a 10K mile car that needs some love. Don't take my word for that mileage. These old speedos break all the time!

    I think the green and blues I've seen are pretty. Red and yellow are pretty common.
     
  5. FerrariFrank1

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    Check out www.italianauto.com He sells cars that are slightly hit,need TLC,etc...Pretty cheap. Check out his site right now. He's in Phoenix,AZ. He has a couple (3,actually) 328's with easily fixable front end damage. He also sells 288GTO "Re-Body" kits. Buy both and make a 288GTO track car! Better yet,he has a RED '77 308GTB that is in need,(has a great body) but,needs that HIGH PERFORMANCE engine that you want to put into it. Interior is already gutted,so,do whatever you want to it. He's asking $10,500.00 Check it out! If you buy one,give him my FChat "handle" for maybe a finders fee or deal on some parts! :)) ) I need a passenger side Square,328 style mirror.
     
  6. GrigioGuy

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    Yes, I have one

    It hasn't been there in a while. I think I have the guy's name and number around somewhere, but I'll have to look. The head gasket had already been repaired (per the current owner).

    As far as finding a track/beater/etc., start talking to any local independent Ferrari mechanics. I know the ones around here usually have a good feel for what's on the market locally, and if you put the word out that you're looking for a car that needs significant work several will probably crawl out of the woodwork.
     
  7. thecarreaper

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    thank all of you for your help and responses. RED81308 i will check his site as soon as i post this. i have looked at several EXPENSIVE 308' s here in georgia and a few in florida. none were worth the $25- 30k price IMO, i have cash so the no BULLSHEET rule is in effect. the whole point of this post is to get advice , info and opinions on a good car to repair and drive. red is nice but there is more to life than red ferraris, i love them all! i have no use for some low milage garage queen that is going to leak out of every hole from lack of use. i have done some major repairs on aircraft and several squashed muscle cars with great results. i cant imagine a fcar is that hard to fix. its just a machine!
    please keep posts and opionions coming. as soon as i find and purchase a car i will post it here, thanks . michael
     
  8. WILLIAM H

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    Michael, try my friend Martin who advertises here, he trades Ferraris in Miami. For $25-30k you should be able to find a high miles 328 or 348 I imagine or an almost perfect 308
     
  9. thecarreaper

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    thanks WILLIAMH for the reply but the point of the post is that i have looked at 6 different cars and all were no where near worth the $25-$30k. i have cash to spend but i dont want to spend that much on a car that will most likely have problems (which is normal for and old car , believe me i know) and i prefer the older carb car ( which rules out 328/348) because i have had A LOT of expierience with old muscle cars and lite aircraft. please dont take this as me bieng a sour puss, i posted on the board to get opionions and your help is appriciated. i have seen some white, gold, blue " off color" cars ( carb 308) and ones that have been modified go for under 20k. i want to DRIVE it not look at it, or worry about miles. modern tires , ignition , lack of a/c is fine with me. when i was at the robling road event a fchat member suggested i talk with T RUTLANDS. as of yet i have not as i have not been able to drive any distances on the weekend due to overtime work. i was told that beat up 308's can be found for a 10k or so. its just a car, there is no way it will be that hard to fix up ( yes i can paint and do interior too )
    sometimes its better to buy low and make EXACTLY what you want through restoration than paying out the nose and have no money left to fix the car.
     
  10. Dave

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    Well, You wanted opinions so here goes...

    If you want a car to drive, not look at, as you said...
    Then get a driver rather than a beater.
    It is going to cost you more to buy the parts and repair it yourself,
    labor of love or not.
    Hell, you could buy a "really nice" 308GT4 restored for under 24k.
    If you are into the track thing as you state, a fully preped 308 race car can be had for around $25k or so.
    Just my thoughts.
     
  11. thecarreaper

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    thanks DAVE! , my problem is i have had so many 20+ year old cars ie collector quality number matching, documented ect. that i have a " radar" and i "see" past all the hype and the tire shine. if a really nice 308 series is in the mid 20k range, then the odd color neglected cars, ( run but need a major, all hoses ect) wherever they are have to be much much cheaper. i am really leaning towards seeking out some 308gt4's as carb 308' s seem to be rather rare in the market now. thanks for the reply!
     
  12. dwhite

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    Good luck. The parts are expensive. You could drop 10K on parts in the blink of an eye. Are you ready to rebuild a motor and transaxel if necessary. A beater is a beater. IMO, find a decent car it will pay in spades. There is a lot of sh-t out there.
     

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