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  1. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

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    Auctions are the only place we know for sure what was paid, as a matter of public record. But we have no ongoing list of 308/328 auction sales. So I though I'd start one.

    We could go back in time a bit if you know of a verified auction sale price from the last 2-3 years, please add a post and I'll keep a running total.

    Minimum information required: year, model, auction date, sales house, price obtained including commission / premium.

    Auction Date: 16 Jan 2014
    Year: 1976
    Model: 308 GTB Vetroresina
    Colour: Yellow/Beige
    VIN: F106AB19579
    Odo: 13840 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $114,400

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1986
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro Blue/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20AG0062781
    Odo: 9066 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Arizona
    Price: $132,000
     
  2. kerrari

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    Great idea - amazing price on the '86 did it have some special provenance?
     
  3. mike996

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    "Great idea - amazing price on the '86 did it have some special provenance?"

    Other than dumb buyer… :)
     
  4. bigodino

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    Auction Date: 16 Aug 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro/red
    VIN: ZFFXA20AXK0081609
    Odo: 18310 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Quail Lodge Carmel
    Price: $68,200 BP included
     
  5. AJS328

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    Auction Date: 27 April 2013
    Year: 1988 1/2
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Red/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20A3J0078078
    Odo: 25748 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Don Davis Collection
    Price: $88,000
     
  6. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

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    Auction Date: 16 Jan 2014
    Year: 1976
    Model: 308 GTB Vetroresina
    Colour: Yellow/Beige
    VIN: F106AB19579
    Odo: 13840 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $114,400

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1986
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro Blue/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20AG0062781
    Odo: 9066 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Arizona
    Price: $132,000

    Auction Date: 16 Aug 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro/red
    VIN: ZFFXA20AXK0081609
    Odo: 18310 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Quail Lodge Carmel
    Price: $68,200

    Auction Date: 27 April 2013
    Year: 1988 1/2
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Red/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20A3J0078078
    Odo: 25748 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Don Davis Collection
    Price: $88,000
     
  7. nerofer

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    Mar 26, 2011
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    Gentlemen,

    If not private to american Ferraristis, but open to all countries (if not, delete my post)
    For an "international flavor", here is my contribution:

    Auction date: october 2013
    Origin of the vehicle: "an important private belgian collection of Ferraris"
    Year: 1989 (not july 1988 as said in the catalogue)
    Model: 328 GTS, swiss version with cat
    Color: Rosso Corsa / Beige leather
    VIN: ZFFCA20S000081069
    Odometer: 27864 kms (about 17300 miles)
    Auction house: Artcurial
    Location: annual october auction on the Champs-élysées
    Price reached: 64979 euros (about 88001 dollars if the euros is worth 1,3543 dollars)

    Link to the description and pics:

    «*Automobiles sur les Champs 6*» - Vente N° 2451 - Lot N° 14 | Artcurial | Briest - Poulain - F. Tajan
     
  8. vaccarella

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    It's a worldwide survey, Nerofer. As long as it is an auction with published results, it will go in.

    Auction Date: 16 Jan 2014
    Year: 1976
    Model: 308 GTB Vetroresina
    Colour: Yellow/Beige
    VIN: F106AB19579
    Odo: 13840 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $114,400

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1986
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro Blue/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20AG0062781
    Odo: 9066 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Arizona
    Price: $132,000

    Auction date: Oct 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Rosso Corsa / Beige leather
    VIN: ZFFCA20S000081069
    Odo: 27864 km (17300 miles)
    Auction house: Artcurial
    Location: Paris
    Price: € 64979 ($ 88,000)

    Auction Date: 16 Aug 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro/red
    VIN: ZFFXA20AXK0081609
    Odo: 18310 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Quail Lodge Carmel
    Price: $68,200

    Auction Date: 27 April 2013
    Year: 1988 1/2
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Red/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20A3J0078078
    Odo: 25748 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Don Davis Collection
    Price: $88,000
     
  9. nerofer

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    All right Paul, I'll keep my eyes open and look at what will come...

    Rgds
     
  10. sherpa23

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    What about the two 328 GTBs that Bonhams sold in August 2013 and Jan 2014? Are the prices not unrealistic enough to make them worth posting?
     
  11. vaccarella

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    A price is a price. The only exceptions are if there is some very special reason for a high/low price. Eg a Michellotto. Or a car pulled from the sea.
     
  12. TedM

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    Added the BJ 328 and the links for the recent auctions. Still waiting for R&S to post the results for the two 308s auctioned over the weekend.

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1986
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro Blue/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20AG0062781
    Odo: 9066 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Arizona
    Price: $132,000
    Link: 1986 Ferrari 328 GTS | Arizona 2014 | RM AUCTIONS

    Auction Date: 16 Jan 2014
    Year: 1976
    Model: 308 GTB Vetroresina
    Colour: Yellow/Beige
    VIN: F106AB19579
    Odo: 13840 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $114,400
    Link: Bonhams : 1976 Ferrari 308GTB Chassis no. 19579 Engine no. 01770

    Auction Date: 15 Jan 2014
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Color: Red/Tan
    Vin: ZFFXA20A0K0082932
    Odo: 10,000
    Auction House: Barrett-Jackson
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $64,900
    Link: 1989 FERRARI 328 GTS Lot 827.1 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company

    Auction date: Oct 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Rosso Corsa / Beige leather
    VIN: ZFFCA20S000081069
    Odo: 27864 km (17300 miles)
    Auction house: Artcurial
    Location: Paris
    Price: € 64979 ($88,000)

    Auction Date: 16 Aug 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro/red
    VIN: ZFFXA20AXK0081609
    Odo: 18310 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Quail Lodge Carmel
    Price: $68,200

    Auction Date: 27 April 2013
    Year: 1988 1/2
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Red/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20A3J0078078
    Odo: 25748 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Don Davis Collection
    Price: $88,000
     
  13. Omnivore

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  14. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

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    Yes, other lists may be available. But why pay $120 for something we can very easily collectively compile here? And almost certainly with more insight ;) Call it intelligent community crowd-sourcing.

    Thanks Ted for your valuable additions :) I did think of adding links but they are a pita to maintain in the fullness of time.

    Anyone adding, please include the existing list and slot your addition in chronological order. It'd be nice to see some more 308s.
     
  15. TedM

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    #15 TedM, Jan 23, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2014
    Adds the two 308s from R&S mentioned earlier. All of the Ferrari auctions from R&S seem low -- if I had been there, the 360 couple w/ manual would have been tempting for $66,130.

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1985
    Model: 308 GTS
    Colour: Red/Tan
    VIN: ZFFUA13A5F0056583
    Odo: 47,000 miles
    Auction House: Russo & Steele
    Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
    Price: $30,900.00
    Link: Russo and Steele - Collector Automobile Auctions

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1985
    Model: 308 GTS
    Colour: Red/Tan
    VIN: ZFFUA13A9F0054481
    Odo: 14,000 miles
    Auction House: Russo & Steele
    Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
    Price: $34,200.00
    Link: Russo and Steele - Collector Automobile Auctions

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1986
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro Blue/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20AG0062781
    Odo: 9066 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Arizona
    Price: $132,000
    Link: 1986 Ferrari 328 GTS | Arizona 2014 | RM AUCTIONS

    Auction Date: 16 Jan 2014
    Year: 1976
    Model: 308 GTB Vetroresina
    Colour: Yellow/Beige
    VIN: F106AB19579
    Odo: 13840 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $114,400
    Link: Bonhams : 1976 Ferrari 308GTB Chassis no. 19579 Engine no. 01770

    Auction Date: 15 Jan 2014
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Color: Red/Tan
    Vin: ZFFXA20A0K0082932
    Odo: 10,000
    Auction House: Barrett-Jackson
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $64,900
    Link: 1989 FERRARI 328 GTS Lot 827.1 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company

    Auction date: Oct 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Rosso Corsa / Beige leather
    VIN: ZFFCA20S000081069
    Odo: 27864 km (17300 miles)
    Auction house: Artcurial
    Location: Paris
    Price: € 64979 ($88,000)

    Auction Date: 16 Aug 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro/red
    VIN: ZFFXA20AXK0081609
    Odo: 18310 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Quail Lodge Carmel
    Price: $68,200

    Auction Date: 27 April 2013
    Year: 1988 1/2
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Red/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20A3J0078078
    Odo: 25748 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Don Davis Collection
    Price: $88,000
     
  16. vaccarella

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    Wow, we're brought back down to earth with those R&S prices. Maybe two very similar in the same sale split the buyers.
     
  17. FasterIsBetter

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    I think there are very few cars that will command really high prices. To get top dollar, they have to be in great condition, unless they are like that 330 that went for $2MM unrestored, simply because it was so rare. 308s and 328s are not rare. It seems prices are creeping up generally, but big-dollar cars are the exception, not the rule just yet. My '86 GTS is a nice driver, not a show car, so it won't fetch $80-100K. But I'd probably be happy to let it go for $50K if someone made me an offer. :D
     
  18. AJS328

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    Agreed. That 14k mile '85 308 could have been a dog-eared car with the odometer cable disconnected (for a while) and then reconnected. Without seeing it it's tough to tell. If it was a really nice car then I think the buyer did very well on that one.
     
  19. vaccarella

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    Adding a vetro sold last week in the UK.

    Auction Date: 24th April 2014
    Year: 1976
    Model: 308 GTB
    Colour: Azzuro Dino/Black
    VIN: F106AB*20265*
    Odo: 62,000 miles
    Auction House: H&H
    Location: Imperial War Museum Duxford
    Price: £92,400 ($156,000)
    Link: 1976Ferrari308GTBVetroresina

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1985
    Model: 308 GTS
    Colour: Red/Tan
    VIN: ZFFUA13A5F0056583
    Odo: 47,000 miles
    Auction House: Russo & Steele
    Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
    Price: $30,900.00
    Link: Russo and Steele - Collector Automobile Auctions

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1985
    Model: 308 GTS
    Colour: Red/Tan
    VIN: ZFFUA13A9F0054481
    Odo: 14,000 miles
    Auction House: Russo & Steele
    Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
    Price: $34,200.00
    Link: Russo and Steele - Collector Automobile Auctions

    Auction Date: 17 Jan 2014
    Year: 1986
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro Blue/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20AG0062781
    Odo: 9066 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Arizona
    Price: $132,000
    Link: 1986 Ferrari 328 GTS | Arizona 2014 | RM AUCTIONS

    Auction Date: 16 Jan 2014
    Year: 1976
    Model: 308 GTB Vetroresina
    Colour: Yellow/Beige
    VIN: F106AB19579
    Odo: 13840 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $114,400
    Link: Bonhams : 1976 Ferrari 308GTB Chassis no. 19579 Engine no. 01770

    Auction Date: 15 Jan 2014
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Color: Red/Tan
    Vin: ZFFXA20A0K0082932
    Odo: 10,000
    Auction House: Barrett-Jackson
    Location: Scottsdale
    Price: $64,900
    Link: 1989 FERRARI 328 GTS Lot 827.1 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company

    Auction date: Oct 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Rosso Corsa / Beige leather
    VIN: ZFFCA20S000081069
    Odo: 27864 km (17300 miles)
    Auction house: Artcurial
    Location: Paris
    Price: € 64979 ($88,000)

    Auction Date: 16 Aug 2013
    Year: 1989
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Azzuro/red
    VIN: ZFFXA20AXK0081609
    Odo: 18310 miles
    Auction House: Bonhams
    Location: Quail Lodge Carmel
    Price: $68,200

    Auction Date: 27 April 2013
    Year: 1988 1/2
    Model: 328 GTS
    Colour: Red/Beige
    VIN: ZFFXA20A3J0078078
    Odo: 25748 miles
    Auction House: RM
    Location: Don Davis Collection
    Price: $88,000
     
  20. nullspace

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    The car is on craigslist now at an asking price of $52,888.

    Quite an optimistic price if you ask me.

     
  21. bigodino

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    Not to go too much off topic, but invariably the comparison with the 246 Dino comes to mind. They are selling for about $300K at auction, correct? So are these all exceptional examples? In other words, are there still driver Dinos out there that can be bought for $150K? I think the price difference will be smaller.
     
  22. FasterIsBetter

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    Peter, as we all know, cars (or any collectible for that matter) are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. Why are Dino's so hot now? Years ago, you almost couldn't give them away. Now, they are hot, hot, hot. Will that happen with the 308s or 328s? Who knows?!! But I, for one, certainly hope that prices go through the roof. I can think of a lot of things I could do with a whole pile of extra money.
     
  23. VIZSLA

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    Extra money?
    Sounds like an oxymoron.
    ;)
     
  24. AJS328

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    It wouldn't do me any good. I like these cars too much. If they skyrocket in price, I'd never be able to replace my current car for anywhere near what I paid for it. In that case, I'd be stuck in this car and that wouldn't essentially end my run of buying toys. Being stuck in this car isn't the problem as much as the fact that I like variety (I've had seven 328's).
     
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