OFFICIAL, ANNOUNCED TODAY - KIMI REJOINED | Page 7 | FerrariChat

OFFICIAL, ANNOUNCED TODAY - KIMI REJOINED

Discussion in 'F1' started by daytona355, Sep 11, 2013.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

    Sep 25, 2006
    23,397
    Campbell, CA
    Full Name:
    Ian Anderson
    :eek:

    "Don't blame me!"..... ;)
     
  2. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

    Aug 30, 2011
    7,289
    I hate how the Scuderia Ferrari gear is never the same as the official gear the team actually wears...gonna miss that from buying kimi lotus gear the last 2 seasons...hats shirts etc were always identical to what is worn by kimi, other than the inner labels/tags.
     
  3. SoftwareDrone

    SoftwareDrone F1 Veteran
    Sponsor Owner

    Jan 19, 2004
    7,875
    San Jose, California
    Full Name:
    Mike
    So Ferrari finally admitted the error of their ways?? Wow, that's a first.
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jan 11, 2008
    41,693
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
  5. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,790
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
  6. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jan 11, 2008
    41,693
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
    That being so the sport itself is having a cash crisis.

    There are dark times and big changes coming.
     
  7. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,790
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Indeed.

    Read a fascinating article in a German magazine. F1 is in deep trouble financially. Something needs changing. Not sure Bernie can fix it or whether he is even part of the problem.

    A major shake up is coming though.
     
  8. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jan 11, 2008
    41,693
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
    Then again if there's a sport that needs a shake up F1 is it.
     
  9. Lycanthrope

    Lycanthrope Karting

    Feb 19, 2013
    68
    It's not that simple and clear cut. Lotus thought they got Kimi cheap when paying him a low salary and they thought they were safe when promising bonuses if Kimi would score over 100 points, which they didn't think would happen.

    They didn't pay him bonuses last year and nor have they paid him bonuses this year either. What kind of a message are they giving their driver who scores points after points to them?

    1. They don't think he is worth paying bonuses.

    2. They don't have money to build a competitive car for next year.

    If the team has so little appreciation for KR that they don't think they have to pay bonuses according to the contract, then the bunny picture can be seen two ways ;)

    But does Kimi owe them so much that he ought to drive for nickles and take the charity-approach to Lotus?

    I don't think so, since salaries always show a certain kind of respect for a driver.
     
  10. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    I dont think Kimi made a mystery of this. He left for money and Ferrari has it lol!
     
  11. Lycanthrope

    Lycanthrope Karting

    Feb 19, 2013
    68
    But you made it sound as if he was greedy for money, DF1.

    Kimi's salary in Lotus is 5 million euros. The team owes Kimi 5,1 million euros in unpaid salaries.
     
  12. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Uh you can read all you into what matters or not from Kimi. He left because he wasnt being paid. Thats not greed at all. He would like to be paid for his efforts. Lotus didnt pay him. This is not a complicated calculus.
     
  13. Lycanthrope

    Lycanthrope Karting

    Feb 19, 2013
    68
    My apologies for misunderstanding your tone. Friends?
     
  14. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jan 11, 2008
    41,693
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
    In effect the team left Kimi.
     
  15. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    The internet lacks clarity! :)
     
  16. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    43,028
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    IIRC Kimi did get his money from last year, as it almost bankrupted the team (they weren't aware he was going to do so well...he got 75K euro per point! + 3m base!).

    I'm only aware of them owing some cash now, that 5.1 figure you put is probably right. If they can't pay his salary, they can't afford to develop the car. I'm sure he enjoyed his time at Lotus but no point racing for friendship :p.
     
  17. Lycanthrope

    Lycanthrope Karting

    Feb 19, 2013
    68
    Bas Jaski, I don't know if he got all of it from last year. The contract stated that he would get bonuses if he would score over 100 points, from that on every point meant bonuses.

    Kimi scored over 200 points last season, something Lotus wasn't prepared for. So I think that they still owe from last year?

    Reporters asked Kimi today why he has stayed for so long at Lotus although he doesn't get paid. Kimi replied that he wants to help the team as much as he can.

    Kimi skipped Lotus-team's PR-event in the earlier GP, he probably skips them from now on.

    But Lotus is in big trouble if they don't find a pay driver, there has already been talks about their future being at stake.

    lol, they probably sigh of relief every race Kimi doesn't score points ;)
     
  18. rmani

    rmani F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Nov 1, 2003
    7,334
    NJ
    Full Name:
    RMani
    I thought i read kimi gets 50k per point
     
  19. Lycanthrope

    Lycanthrope Karting

    Feb 19, 2013
    68
    If Andrew Benson is right, then Lotus didn't even try to keep Räikkönen in the team, otherwise they would had taken care of it:

    @andrewbensonf1

    - to be clear on Raikkonen/Lotus, I'm told it's not just his bonus for points that hasn't been paid, but his whole salary
     
  20. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    43,028
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    Maybe. I'm unsure what his current salary is (well...what they agreed upon anyhow).
     
  21. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    43,028
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    If he still hasn't got their pay by next year he can probably take a (generous) ownership share in the team. Might be a conflict of interest there though....put it in his managers name :p.
     
  22. Wolfgang5150

    Wolfgang5150 F1 Rookie

    Oct 31, 2003
    4,706
  23. Lycanthrope

    Lycanthrope Karting

    Feb 19, 2013
    68
    This might interest you?

     
  24. Lycanthrope

    Lycanthrope Karting

    Feb 19, 2013
    68
    There is a group of anonymous Finns who translate every now and then, they don't want their names to be mentioned so that's the reason why I don't credit the translator.

    You Ferrari-guys, do you know this Moko-guy?

     

Share This Page