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'Official' F12M Rumours and Launch

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  1. Milanno

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    I agree with you, but you must understand I am not Ferrari employee so I must build whole puzzle step by step :D
    We must start from small parts, dont you agree :)
     
  2. Caeruleus11

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    Wow Milanno- great work! Thanks for sharing :)
     
  3. [gTr]

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    The lines in the back will be more horizontal and less vertical. The internal design team seems to prefer a flatter/squatter look for the the back. Just look at the backs of CaliT, 488 and the GTC4 Lusso.
     
  4. markonex

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    I think that, since the next car will not be a lifted f12, but a new generation model, that it will be much different from a mixing of gtc4 and f12; actually at this point I'm very interested in the rear treatment and as Tim said, it will be a very sporty car, much more aggressive with respect to old gt v12 cars. Finally Ferrari got tired of McLaren and decided to change its game. Now I'm looking forward to see this one and next 488 VS.
     
  5. Traveller

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    You are absolutely right if you are to have any hope of building an accurate impression and so need to assemble as each clue is further revealed.

    So much of this car, especially the rear is cloaked and the only other serious clues are the front where you can see the air being directed into the start of what looks like some sort of aero device either side of the headlights, presumably leading to some evolution of the aero bridge and whatever is going on behind the rear quarter lights where you can see the camo suggesting some sort of intake, I assume more aero.
     
  6. Garretto

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    Obviously not an attempt to the final car but a very good render for the quad-taillight concept in a F12 and a hint for a possible F12M rear. I have to say that it looks awesome!

    Thank you!
     
  7. Garretto

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    Is there a consensus on this? I thought we were expecting a F12M, that is, structurally based on the F12, not a new platform.
     
  8. Traveller

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    You are right, same platform, similar, but we think, quite different clothes.
     
  9. montpellier

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    #109 montpellier, Oct 27, 2016
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  10. Traveller

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    Thank you Paul, that is exactly the area that I have been referring to but could not interpret and your explanation could be spot on so maybe the 599 buttress is to make a comeback, diverting the air and effectively replacing the meshed vent that sits on top of the rear quarter?
    Milanno, anything you can do? When you look at your render from the rear you have the start of a crease there just in front of the vents and if you were to open that up?
     
  11. Milanno

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    Thanx again everyone for kind words regarding renders :)

    I completely agree with you, while I would add that they are not doing that for no specific reason. They are getting back "angular" era along with twin taillights, so latest designs from Ferrari are deeply connected with some past models.

    I assume that openings we see on either side of the headlights are there so they can test complete aeroflow - from bonnet, through aero bridge, than through new intake behind doors and I assume exit will be located on rear bumper.

    I`ve made additional render so its easier to see what I have in mind:

    http://s13.postimg.org/3vc6at513/F12_M_Airflow_by_Milanno.jpg
     
  12. [gTr]

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    Great render!
    I wonder if they call this the Aero Tunnel :)
     
  13. Traveller

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    #113 Traveller, Oct 27, 2016
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    I don't believe there will be an additional intake where you indicate. It is higher, at the back edge of the rear quarter light that something like the 599 flying buttress might be going on as Montpelier has shown in his post.
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  14. Caeruleus11

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    Wow Milanno, really great work. I agree though the video slowdown by Paul (montpellier) and discussion with Tim to me suggest some kind of 599 themed/ styled elements. Perhaps they will keep the steeper rake to the rear hatch from the F12tdf, thus making the C pillars more upright and allowing these buttresses?
     
  15. TifosiUSA

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    SO GLAD they are going back to 4 tail lights. Looks so much better
     
  16. Milanno

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    Thank you my friend. I will wait for new spy shots/videos so we can see what will be the case - 599 styled bridge or something else. Currently I am still unable to (visually) integrate 599 style bridge on F12.

    +1
     
  17. rockitman

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    Funnily enough I took exactly the same screenshots yesterday but didn't get around to posting. I think Milanno's render might be more accurate than at first it appears. I saw the same thing as Montpellier, maybe a 599 buttress idea, but the picture of the car's right flank, entering the compound, clearly shows some sort of indentation ahead of the wheelarch, like a vent opening?

    The wraparound at the back on that same shot seems to suggest that there would be no sense to a buttress - where would the air flow go? The rear of the 599 was steeper than the F12 and this car.
     
  19. Milanno

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    I took closer look on second spy shot rockitman uploaded on his last post. There is one specific line behind front fender that gave me inspiration how to start with adjustments on side profile.

    This is first RAW render, so expect better quality later. As most of you know Ferrari design language I am not posting detailed list of adjustments and why I used some specific shapes (some from LaF, some from vintage models) to form design that you see on render below. Also be aware that I am following design philosophy from Ferrari Styling Centre (angular design on new models):
    http://s11.postimg.org/u4m29n55f/F12_M_new_side_profile_by_Milanno_01.jpg

    Here you can see design flow lines through side profile:
    http://s11.postimg.org/ydvu8xeqb/F12_M_new_side_profile_by_Milanno_02.jpg
     
  20. Traveller

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    More great work Milano-thank you. You may be onto something, who knows, all I do know is that unless the camo is bulked up, there is positively some form of inlet or flying buttress behind that rear quarterlight nad maybe as someone else posted, the rear quarter light has been shortened as per the tdf as the entire window is covered which suggests it might well be. Also we are expecting something very aggressive and that shortened window does assist.

    I really wish I had some of your skills to be able to add more convincingly to this discussion.
     
  21. Caeruleus11

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    I think you might be on to something here but I really don't know- it just looks plausible to my eyes. You just have to remove (sadly) the PF badge... Yeah, I wish I had 1/100th Milanno's skills!
     
  22. Garretto

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    #122 Garretto, Oct 27, 2016
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    Nice exercise on the side! Hopefully in the next days further hints surface about the C-pillar and hatch -definitely something is going on there.
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  23. rumble

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    #123 rumble, Oct 27, 2016
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    Enjoying this thread, great mock ups Milanno.

    I'm very interested in what happens to the rear, maybe its my mind playing tricks on me but I see something of the Superamerica under there...
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  24. Makuono

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    From the photos, it appears to have the 488 aileron tunnel! (with the slot opening)
     
  25. Solid State

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    You are not alone - see prior post #41. The fake gas cap panel seems to indicate that the real cap is lower on the body and possibly no hatchback in favor of rear windscreen. Body/platform is definitely F12-based. Hood has vent higher up and intakes above lights like Speciale. Rear is combination of tdf and 488 with blown spoiler. Might be hard to integrate all these and make it look good. We'll see. Betting on flaps and gills though. Interior is bigger mystery IMO.
     

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