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None of this is uncommon (or limited to U.S.). There's likely tens or hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of cars in U.S. with SN from some other car and that's not accounting any State government issued VINs. A lot of people are looking to buy or sell SN's to register cars without or questionable history. Most of the fake California Spyder's, GTOs, SWBs, etc are using SN's from some other cars, including Ferraris. As far as I can tell, majority of concours shows (or their attendees) don't care whether displayed cars are fake or real.
I disagree. In every substantial event I am aware of #'s are confirmed. I was personally involved in removing one at one event. Its a big reason #s are asked for on application and research is done to confirm history and legitimacy of cars.
Again, not in any shows of substance. Any of the major shows do not allow it. FCA banned them until recently but they have to be displayed on their own and have a prominent placard stating they are recreations. And they need to be high quality recreations. Why do you just keep making this **** up?
Again, you seem to misinterpret or -understand what I'm saying. While this is a "Vintage Ferrari" forum, if you read carefully, I wasn't speaking specifically just about them or FCA organized or (close to) PB level shows, but all types of vintage cars and all types of concours shows which there are more in the world than I even think of in a single sitting. And no, I'm not just making **** up. I've been involved with vintage cars for over 45 years, including professionally and pretty much daily/full-time for past 35+, but again, not just Ferraris.
You can always find fault with the lowest common denominator. And who really cares what they do at a high school charity event. Better if we just talk about real events where people are likely to know the difference between a Daytona and a Datsun 240Z.
To some people its walking around money. An old friend of mine, lived a little like Ted Kazinski. Had a little repair shop. Would spend 10 hours trying to fix a $20 part because he hated to throw away something that could be fixed. Spent every dollar like it was from his social security check. But he was a really special guy and a good friend. Turned out he was a DuPont heir. I accidentally saw one of his brokerage statements once. He could not have spent it all if he tried.
While I do agree to some extent, I’ve encountered plenty of attendees at PB (for example) and lesser “major”/“real” events who wouldn’t necessarily know the difference you’re referring to, let alone if one was made to pretend (faked) to be the other.
Some, without doubt. Its so obvious why bring it up? No one expects everyone at the Superbowl to know what a touchdown is. In your world should that deprive them of going to the game? When you lump together shows on high school football fields with Pebble Beach with equal hatred and disdain your statements begin to be meaningless. We get it, most of the rabble are fools and not up to your lofty standards. Please, it gets really old.
Now that could be almost funny if it wasn’t so sad, in a "pot meet kettle" sort of way. I keep forgetting that like so many on this forum, I haven’t apparently earned a privilege to express my opinions or views, especially if they don’t align with someone who thinks anyone he doesn’t agree with is just plain idiot/stupid/etc and deserves to be directly/severely attacked/ridiculed for daring to share theirs. Talk about “hatred”, “lofty standards” and “getting old”. Besides, what on earth any of this has to do with some (meaningless ?) sports ? (Just a rhetorical question) Here I thought (apparently wrongly again) this discussion was about vintage cars and associated activities.
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I expect the orgnizers of serious concours to weed out cars of dubious history. I was shocked at the LaJolla concours a couple of years back to see a Ford G40 427 roadster, in red, matching the Sebring winner in '66 when I was told by Steele Therkelson, a former mechanic on the car, that he was there when Shelby had a hole dug near Playa Del Rey (near Venice CA) and the car shoved in . Steele kept a knock off spinner as a souvineer. Shelby saw the car was falling apart and didn't want anybody killed in it. I never read it was unearthed so I think it was a replica. if you paid $90 or so for a concours ticket I think you expect to see real cars or at least the replicas labeled as replicas Pebble Beach also had an Aston racing car that won a class award only to find out after the show that the car displayed was indeed an Aston but rebodied to resemble a more rare and celebrated famous race car. The ruse surfaced when the family of the racer killed in the car objected to the concours entry. They had given permission for their son to be buried in the car, and it had not been unearthed so its re-appearance was most disturbing to them. PB subseuently retracted the award.