Official Ferrari F12 Berlinetta Picture Thread

Beautiful pics. Thanks for sharing. The conclusion is that F12 looks awesome in any color


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Yes it interrputs (but you can set volume for phone lower than music) or you can not connect with bluetooth and it will just give alerts via the phone speaker, which is barely audible, if you prefer.

Alerts however are limited to police ahead or an object on or on the side of the road. I drove for about an hour so far today and I only had one alert, for police, so I don't find it annoying.

I don't know how the coverage is in other countries but in all the places I have used it in the USA it is great. I also use it for turn by turn directions (which update with live traffic) and that is excellent too as WAZE is now owned by google.

Anyway back to F12s, sorry didn't mean to go off on a tangent about WAZE.

 

I use Waze all the time too. I use it along with a radar detector and I feel protected. I just wish I could filter out all the times when Waze tells you that there is a car on the side of the road. I want notification of police only.

I just moved to Florida, so depending if the Florida State police use laser, I might get a laser jammer too. Good luck!

 

You can change that in settings. FWW waze on android gives you the speed limit of the road you are on as well as your speed - if you are above the limit it turns red - I find it extremely useful as I haven't a clue of the limits on half the roads' I drive on in Switzerland and France (not that I care much when in the latter country)

 

Sorry to hijack the F12 thread by mentioning WAZE - I started a WAZE thread.

 

Unfortunately I know exactly what you mean (for those who haven't read about it, Switzerland is the home of the million-dollar speeding fine), but Germany's autobahns are right next door. I just drove back to Basel from Pisa on Italian autostrada; 160 km/h (100 mph) kept me pretty much in synch with the left hand lane...

Thanks for that! Hoping it works in Europe!

 

Are Swiss speeding fines really that punitive ? What's the law ?

 

Zero tolerance. Zero.

Marcel Massini

 

How many miles over the posted limit do they let you get away with ? Zero ?
In the US you are probably good with anything less than 14 mph over the limit on the interstate and maybe 5 mph over inside city limits.

Thanks in advance Mr. Massini.

 

it's surreal - forget the cost it's the criminal aspect and implications that come with a conviction for speeding

 

So it's criminal to exceed the speed limit even by a few kph ?

 

yes, if by more than 29kmh if I'm not mistaken but also whether on a motorway or "built-up" area different tolerances apply

 

You can limit the amount of talking it does in the settings. It might still be too much for you, but I concur, Waze is essential and to me it's important enough that I don't mind the talking. You can turn the voice off completely but then you need to have it in your line of vision so you don't miss something important.

 

I feel the same way with a radar detector. I am 60 yrs. old, so I am always so used to having one in my line of vision (mounted high on the windshield), so a built-in detector where the detector warning is in the instrument cluster (which is really the appropriate placement for high-end sports cars like Ferrari-Lamborghini-Maserati) is just not for me. I would miss a lot of the alerts.

Right now I really need a mounting bracket (of some sort) for my smartphone and am trying to find one that attaches to the dashboard air vents in my Maserati (for the Waze app). I am thinking that when I get my F12, the air vent attachment method might not work, since the vents are circular? Yes/No?

Do police use radar in Switzerland? Can you have a radar detector there? I frequent many radar detector message boards, and am quite proficient with using them. Especially the ones that are undetectable from radar detector detectors (yes, there is such a thing) used by the police in such places as Virginia. My daughter went to college in Virginia and she has a "lead foot", so I had to get her one. It's countermeasures to the police countermeasures. A constant "arms race". LOL. GLTA.

 

Thanks for the info everyone. Good idea to do a separate thread.

 

Swiss police does use radar, of course. Thousands! Fixed and mobile. Everywhere.
As a private person, even importing, offering, selling and of course owning a radar detector in Switzerland is strictly illegal and you go to jail. Swiss Authorities are the ONLY ones to have and use a radar system. It is also strictly illegal to warn others about a radar (by placing a placard half a mile before the location of some radar or by message in the radio or in the media (Facebook, etc.). All illegal. BIG time.
As for the tolerances, with the new laser devices the tolerance is 2 km/h (two) which is 1.25 miles/hour. No fun in Switzerland. Just behave or buy a ticket for public transport. Basically as soon as you leave home you are a criminal or at least with one foot in jail already.
A Swiss friend of mine got a speeding ticket with his Mercedes, with one of the new lasers, he complained at the State Attorney but with the photographic proof of the laser they fined him with an additional, second ticket because they said the left front tire didn't have enough rubber (profile) anymore. The distance between the laser device and the Mercedes was 400 meters (1'200 feet). Seriously. Two fines, one for speeding and the second for the missing rubber. As said, it is no fun. Zero.

Marcel Massini

 

Switzerland has a direct domacraty. But no one stands up against those draconic speeding fines.
Instead the swiss cross the border and race the German Autobahn.

 

What a disaster to live in Switzerland...

Following an extract from the list of traffic fines (Swiss law):
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It's actually a bit worse than that. There's a lot of information about Swiss speeding fines here. In the first post in that linked thread you'll see a table of speeding sanctions (in German -- sorry -- but you'll get the idea).

Swiss autobahns have a maximum speed limit of 120 km/h (75 mph) (often reduced to 100 or even less). Doing 200 km/h (125 mph) on a dead straight Swiss autobahn in the dead of night with no other cars around is punishable by minimum one year in jail. There would be fines on top of that, too. By the way, the "Tagessätze Geldstrafe" that you see in the right hand column means fines calculated as a multiple of your assessed daily income -- so for doing 155 km/h (a.k.a. having fun in 2nd gear in my FF) on the autobahn, you could get slugged with a fine of one month's income. Hence the million dollar fine for big earners.

But Switzerland is nevertheless no disaster to live in... just to drive to your full potential in. Fortunately, the country is small and it doesn't take long before you emerge from it onto German, French, Italian or Austrian (or Liechtenstein, but don't blink or you'll miss it) roads.

 

You mean democracy. And yes the Swiss all stood up and said we want MUCH STRICTER and MORE MASSIVE rules, laws and huge fines. Swiss citizens voted for that and unfortunately the wrong side won.
On 30 September 2014 I got a speeding ticket (first ever in Switzerland in 37 years of driving). Not in a Ferrari. In a 50 km/h zone (exiting a village) I passed a slow tractor and got caught with 68 km/h, so I was 18 km/h over the limit (minus the small tolerance and net it was 16 km/h too fast). This cost me Swiss Francs 4'500 in total fines and fees (equals to US$ 4'500) and two years probation. That is four thousand five hundred.
So much for our wonderful little country.......

Marcel Massini

 

Interesting topic. I heard that people voted for stricter rules for the over the top racers going way to fast. This was due to young men doing street races and so on. A lot of young immigrants from Kosovo etc also played a role in this?

The outrageous fines for the slower tickets are probably not what the masses want.

 

The only good thing about Swiss speeding fines is that there's no points system. You can accrue (and pay!) as many low-level fines as your wallet can bear, and you won't lose your licence. The Swiss love recividist minor speeders -- it's great for the cantonal coffers...

See, every cloud has a silver lining.

Anyway, I guess we're wandering off topic here -- there's even been a non-Ferrari speeder in these last few posts!

 

When I think back to how I drove in those passes, the last time just three years ago, never again.

Try this-$290,000!!:

A Swiss millionaire has been handed down a record speeding fine of $290,000 (£180,000) by a court.

The man was reportedly caught driving a red Ferrari Testarossa at 137km/h (85mph) through a village.

The penalty was calculated based on the unnamed motorist's wealth - assessed by the court as $22.7m (£14.1m) - and because he was a repeat offender.

It is more than double Switzerland's previous record speeding fine - handed to a Porsche driver in Zurich in 2008.

In the latest case, the motorist was clocked speeding 57km/h (35mph) faster than the limit, according to the cantonal court in St Gallen, eastern Switzerland.

"The accused ignored elementary traffic rules with a powerful vehicle out of a pure desire for speed," the court said in its judgement.

Swiss media reported that the man owns a villa with five luxury cars, including the Ferrari

 

Driving past a speed camera today in Germany I was reminded that here cameras tend to be in places where there is some genuine danger and where speed should be reduced. Obviously many autobahns are derestricted but the other areas tend to not be policed unless actually dangerous. Up to 20km over the limit is only about Eur 25 fine so everyone drives at least 20km over the limit. The system here seems to be about safety but the Swiss system seems to be about revenue. I am always super nervous when I cross the border to Switzerland as micromanaging speed is hard so I tend to always be 10km under the limit LOl!

 

....seems....? IT IS!

In Switzerland there are very clear (undisclosed!) targets for every canton, community, city and village, and every year their budgets are raised by 20 or more percent. It has ZERO to do with safety and danger. It is all about money, the more, the better.
We want YOUR Money!

Marcel Massini