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Official Ferrari F12 Berlinetta Picture Thread

Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by furious_ferrari, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. MDEL

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    I'm not a Ferrari color specialist and I don't pretend to be one at all. I mentioned the Verde Abetone because that's what I read on someone's statement quoting a Ferrari color specialist. Looking at different pictures of Ferraris Verde Abetone, the differences in color are evident suggesting that this color isn't a pantone and there are variations.
    The fact that this F12 Verde color hasn't been identified for so long suggests that may be we are in the presence of a puzzling color like the one of "Traveller's" blue f12 TDF.
     
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    #5402 of2worlds, Nov 22, 2018
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    So lots of talk for a long time about the green paint on this London UK F12. I believe the paint color is a old English classic color previously used on the 1971 365 GTC/4 that was a special order. The name of the paint used Verde Blenheim named after the home of Winston Churchill in England. For comparison a few pictures below >

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    Thanks to MDEL - Mario for suggesting this F12 might be painted a color like Tim chose ie. a classic color!
     
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    Respectfully, do you have any educated basis for this or is it simple colour matching/guessing? Because, if the latter, you're ignoring that wise principle (Occam's Razor) which says the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. I.e. Zeltweg, BRG, Abetone... one of the known greens at least.
     
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    I don't know except that color is very nice on both cars!
     
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    Yes I did it with some thought and not a pure 'guess'. :)
    Regarding the other typical green color choices, the tone is off compared to the F12 in question. If you look at the London F12 it is what I call a 'blue green' color. The other colors quoted especially Abetone are what I call 'yellow green' colors. It is the blue green that suggests this Verde Blenheim shade. These yellow and blue details are just names I personally use to differentiate between various shades. Also the fact that Verde Blenheim is a classic Ferrari color which the factory could reference as a potential choice for an F12 build. Buyers have developed a stronger interest in exploring previous paint choices. Beyond even the classic paint color choice we have cars built as a homage to a classic Ferrari of the past now to. The whole 70 years program done by 'tailor made' was a big homage to the past with a vast array of old models revisited!
    The 1971 365 GTC/4 was originally purchased in that Italian fashion capital Milan. Perhaps the reason Scotch was chosen for the interior color back then.

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    Some enterprising individual should track down the serial number with that UK lic plate information and then get a friendly Ferrari service manager to look up the paint name for that serial number. Though that would take all the fun out of the color question... :D
     
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    Thanks for the explanation but I still think you might be overthinking it. Why not Zeltweg?

    Do you have examples of blue green/yellow green? Any sample would do, not on Ferraris specifically. So that I level with you on this.
     
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    The Zeltweg is a metallic and the London F12 in my opinion is non-metallic. The non-metallic paints have in my view a greater clarity. The clarity also depends on the paint thickness which can range from 8 to 38 microns. Think of Nero vs Nero Daytona for example which is a perfect example of the different clarity.
    Most greens are yellow - green like abetone. The blue - green is quite distinct with the side view of the London F12 showing this clearly>
    again just my two cents

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    Most shades of green are yellow - green and that is why the blue - green is so distinct when you see it. The difference in shade is perhaps subtle but when you see the difference it becomes quite noticeable.
     
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    OK, so if it were non-metallic why not BRG? Do you consider it a yellow-green?
     
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    Yes BRG is a yellow green.
     
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    All Three of the F12 examples in the 3 posts above are yellow green with post #5412 being a really good example of what I call yellow - green. The other two are less pronounced but still in what I call the same 'family' of color ie. yellow green.
    Thanks SPYROS for those examples!
     
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    What about these last 3 just posted? Met/non-met, blue or yellow green? I have a bit of green OD right now to correctly assess. Just had some green beans for lunch, seriously :D
     
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    Yes #5411 5412 & 5413 are all what I see as yellow green.
    You mentioned any other car so here is an American car that is the blue green example >

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    Wow, I'm so sorry but I can't extract as much as you from those pictures. Thanks anyway, Charles!
     
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    Another example by a different photographer where the light shows the blue characteristic in the shade of green paint on this car >

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    It is like flaws in a paint job where most people will look and simply see nice paint. However when you study the characteristics and know where panels are bonded together for example then all the imperfections jump out at you. Same idea for the paint colors; when you know the shades and compare the colors the differences are often very stark.
    When comparing old colors with the newly painted version it is with the understanding that paint techniques have advanced. Companies mostly use the new waterborne or latex paint now. This gives a different look to the paint even though the color is being replicated.
     
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    Thank you and that is what I am thinking as well.
     
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    Great discussion.
    I really have come to appreciate the beauty and class of a deep “hunter” green on a GT car!
     
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    For those who doubt the scope of the knowledge of Mr Massini this quote from the summer of 2017 shows how forward thinking he is...
     
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    That is true, but in case anyone hasn't noticed, I think you have a deep knowledge of these cars and colors as well!
     
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    When the discussion started about what's the exact color of the London verde F12 Berlinetta, I followed with great interest of2Worlds's posts and the explanations given about the nuances of the green color. As I emphasized before my knowledge of Ferrari colors isn't deep but I know we have here on FerrariChat several specialists on the subject. Taking the discussion theme which is the green color I post below a group of pictures with the main Ferrari Verde colors. I leave to the specialists the analysis of each verde and the comparisons between them.



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