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  1. Admiral Thrawn

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    #1 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 2, 2004
    Well, the first Friday Free Practise Session has just been completed. Ferrari took advantage of the dry period at the beginning of the session to put in some times that blow everyone else away so far. Massa, Alonso, Fisichella, Coulthard, Montoya, Raikkonen and Webber have yet to record any times.

    Montoya lost it on his fourth lap, spinning off in the wet at 150mph when approaching the Imola chicane, sliding into the gravel trap, almost flipping and crashing into the tyre barrier. He was uninjured.

    P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Times Ave/Gaps Laps
    1. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'15"487 210.362 Km/h 4
    2. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'15"713 + 0'00"226 4
    3. 04 GENE Williams BMW M 1'19"348 + 0'03"861 14
    4. 39 GLOCK Jordan Ford B 1'19"428 + 0'03"941 17
    5. 19 PANTANO Jordan Ford B 1'19"466 + 0'03"979 12
    6. 18 HEIDFELD Jordan Ford B 1'20"531 + 0'05"044 12
    7. 20 BRUNI Minardi Cosworth B 1'21"203 + 0'05"716 13
    8. 40 LEINDERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'22"267 + 0'06"780 11
    9. 35 DAVIDSON BAR Honda M 1'26"552 + 0'11"065 17
    10. 16 DA MATTA Toyota M 1'26"757 + 0'11"270 5
    11. 17 PANIS Toyota M 1'27"449 + 0'11"962 4
    12. 9 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'28"317 + 0'12"830 5
    13. 38 ZONTA Toyota M 1'29"085 + 0'13"598 18
    14. 15 KLIEN Jaguar Cosworth M 1'29"626 + 0'14"139 8
    15. 21 BAUMGARTNER Minardi Cosworth B 1'29"877 + 0'14"390 12
    16. 10 SATO BAR Honda M 1'30"092 + 0'14"605 10
    17. 37 WIRDHEIM Jaguar Cosworth M 1'30"204 + 0'14"717 17
    18. 7 TRULLI Renault M 1'39"392 + 0'23"905 4
     
  2. Admiral Thrawn

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    #2 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 2, 2004
    The second Friday Free Practise Session has just been completed. Da Matta and Davidson went out onto the track and pulled off some quick times in the last 5 minutes to unsettle the top positions.

    P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Times Ave/Gaps Laps
    1. 16 DA MATTA Toyota M 1'15"518 210.276 Km/h 12
    2. 7 TRULLI Renault M 1'16"206 + 0'00"688 9
    3. 35 DAVIDSON BAR Honda M 1'16"231 + 0'00"713 17
    4. 9 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'16"397 + 0'00"879 8
    5. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'16"397 + 0'00"879 7
    6. 8 ALONSO Renault M 1'16"454 + 0'00"936 10
    7. 5 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes M 1'16"464 + 0'00"946 8
    8. 14 WEBBER Jaguar Cosworth M 1'16"745 + 0'01"227 14
    9. 6 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'16"794 + 0'01"276 10
    10. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'17"094 + 0'01"576 5
    11. 17 PANIS Toyota M 1'17"303 + 0'01"785 10
    12. 11 FISICHELLA Sauber Petronas B 1'17"324 + 0'01"806 13
    13. 3 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 1'17"556 + 0'02"038 5
    14. 04 GENE Williams BMW M 1'17"688 + 0'02"170 17
    15. 38 ZONTA Toyota M 1'17"735 + 0'02"217 15
    16. 15 KLIEN Jaguar Cosworth M 1'17"936 + 0'02"418 10
    17. 10 SATO BAR Honda M 1'17"967 + 0'02"449 11
    18. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas B 1'18"614 + 0'03"096 7
    19. 19 PANTANO Jordan Ford B 1'18"711 + 0'03"193 10
    20. 37 WIRDHEIM Jaguar Cosworth M 1'19"179 + 0'03"661 16
    21. 18 HEIDFELD Jordan Ford B 1'19"270 + 0'03"752 12
    22. 20 BRUNI Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"349 + 0'03"831 10
    23. 39 GLOCK Jordan Ford B 1'19"490 + 0'03"972 25
    24. 21 BAUMGARTNER Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"636 + 0'04"118 13
    25. 40 LEINDERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"914 + 0'04"396 16
     
  3. tifosi12

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    #3 tifosi12, Jul 2, 2004
    I read (in my fav mag again), that they do let Davidson run with almost empty tanks for kicks. Nevertheless he is highly respected, but since Glock's debut they both rank now equally high among the 3rd pilots.
     
  4. Admiral Thrawn

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    #4 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 2, 2004
    There are good write-ups on the two practise sessions at F1-live.net.
     
  5. Admiral Thrawn

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    #5 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 2, 2004
    Here are some photos of Montoya's car during and after the accident.
     
  6. F40

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    #6 F40, Jul 2, 2004
    How come they don't have this the week after Monaco?
     
  7. Admiral Thrawn

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    #7 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 3, 2004
    I guess because there are only certain times they can have the GP in the US and Canada. Or perhaps in France. Who knows....
     
  8. Bart

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    #8 Bart, Jul 3, 2004
    This is the Offical Fench GP, OK.

    Hey, I hope the Italians beat the crap out of the French manufacotrs of the Formula One.

    Sorry, but I loved the Italian car.
     
  9. Admiral Thrawn

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    #9 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 3, 2004
    Michael Schumacher just broke the Magny-Cours lap record by 0.022 seconds, which was held by his brother in 2003, with only 6 seconds of the practise session to go! That's Schumacher precision for you! :D
     
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    #10 watt, Jul 3, 2004
    alonso on the pole tho', but MS faster
     
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    #11 tifosi12, Jul 3, 2004
    I guess we'll see about that tomorrow.

    As expected Michelin did an immense effort to look good on home turf. So did Renault.

    Interesting camera split with Briatore's reaction to MS coming in 2nd. How times change: He used to cheer for him back in the Benetton days. Oh well.

    What the hell happened to Rubens? Interesting to see whether he can improve. One would hope so.

    At any rate, I think chances are good for a real race to take place.
     
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    #12 F40Lover, Jul 3, 2004
    1 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:13.698

    2 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:13.971

    3 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:13.987

    4 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:13.995

    5 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:14.070

    6 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:14.172

    7 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:14.240

    8 Marc Gene Williams-BMW 1:14.275

    9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.346

    10 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:14.478

    11 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:14.553

    12 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:14.798

    13 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:15.065

    14 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:15.130

    15 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:16.177

    16 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:16.200

    17 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:16.807

    18 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:17.462

    19 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.913

    20 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.247
     
  13. FLATOUTRACING

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    #13 FLATOUTRACING, Jul 3, 2004
    DC is THIRD.................................Did he get a new girlfriend ??????????

    Should be a good race ! I think Renault is one a low fuel level so they could be on pole in France.


    Regards,

    Jon P. Kofod
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  14. Admiral Thrawn

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    #14 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 3, 2004
    Well I'm back from a party.... tried to watch the results live on a laptop using wireless but it kept cutting out. Oh well. :(

    I can't believe the times in the 1:13's! Well over a second quicker than last year's record lap (which was 1:14.966, set by Ralf Schumacher in the second Saturday Practise Session).

    I'm also very impressed by David Coulthard's form; I hope this is the beginning of a comeback.

    What happened to Barrichello? Raikkonen and Sato weren't so flash either.

    Rubens is 2 stopping most likely. Can the McLarens hold their positions? Can Gene move through the field? Can Alonso hold off MS? Can JPM give MS hell?

    Got a feeling it's going to be an interesting race tomorrow!
     
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    #15 tifosi12, Jul 3, 2004
    You might be right about the fuel levels. After all they wanted to shine here.
    However it might be a real advantage due to the Michelins which are here on their home track. So I wonder where the Ferrari really is at:

    Michael probably made it look better than it is and Rubens made it look worse.

    Mc Laren brought the new car which seemed to be a big improvement. The question is, will the engine hold? And if it does are we going to see at least some pressure on Michael from the silver cars? Would be nice.
     
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    #16 beast, Jul 3, 2004
    My predictions MS running on a 3 stop plan with a little more fuel than the other runners. rubens is heavy and on a 2 stop plan with a long first stint then running about the same fuel loads as the 3 stoppers

    MS 1st
    RB 2nd
    Trulli 3rd

    ;)
     
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    #17 62 250 GTO, Jul 3, 2004
    The williams car is using a lot of negitive camber.
     
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    #18 Gatorrari, Jul 3, 2004
    I think this is the usual MS strategy at work: stay behind Alonso until the Renault pits, do a couple of banzai laps, and then pit and come out in the lead. Don't you think?

    P.S. I hadn't heard: what's the chance of rain at race time?
     
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    #19 tifosi12, Jul 3, 2004
    I'm a bit worried about Rubens. When you're tenth a lot of bad stuff can happen in the breaking zone to the hairpin.
     
  20. Admiral Thrawn

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    #20 Admiral Thrawn, Jul 3, 2004
    Apparently Rubens had some problems with his car, which prevented him from going out during pre-qualifying. That in turn hurt his performance in qualifying, according to Ferrari. But I'm guessing he'll still be on a two-stop strategy.
     
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    #21 beast, Jul 4, 2004
    Forza Ferrari!!!!!

    Great last lap pass Rubens you are the man!!!!!!
     
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    #22 vincent355, Jul 4, 2004
    Looks like Rubens surprised everyone....including the all knowing talking heads!


    Well done!!!!


    Very exciting.
     
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    #23 beast, Jul 4, 2004
    when Rubens made that pass at the end i jumped out of my couce punched the ceiling and my fists ended up in the fan. What a Race and what a finish.

    MS and a 4 pit stop victory BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    #24 WCH, Jul 4, 2004
    Brilliant.
     
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    #25 zjpj, Jul 4, 2004
    What a race. The race for third at the end was extremely exciting.
     
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