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For Sale OFFICIAL - NEW CLASSIFIEDS SYSTEM!!!

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  1. rob lay

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    We're are starting a build of a new classifieds system that will be more robust, user friendly, professional, and also have many value added features for buyers and sellers.

    We'll use the same code base at Classic Car Club of America, but we can customize how we want. Please review their classifieds from listing to submissions and let us know what ideas you have for doing this on FerrariChat.

    https://new.classiccarclub.org/vehicles

    Thanks!
     
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  3. Four7EightBHP

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    It seems to me this could be an excellent source of revenue enhancement for Ferrari Chat.

    Please consider adding some features that have been successful at Bring a Trailer. A potential buyer can ask questions and have those questions, along with the seller response, seen in the auction body. That saves a lot of time and somewhat mimics what is experienced at Barrett Jackson. I can ask my questions while listening to other potential buyers. A lot more territory is covered. Open questions and answers provides a much more fluid classified offering. It will take more moderator time for all the obvious reasons.

    Thank you for asking. I hope the classified venture brings great success!
     
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  4. Laserguru

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    I think being able to sort through listing by model would be the greatest improvement. Rather than spooling through temporal update dependent listings, one could go directly to those listing for the desired 328, or 458 Spiders.....
     
  5. Red 27

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    Not sure if the new for sale ads will be mixed in with the wanted ads but I think a separate section would be better for wanted ads. Today there are 18 wanted ads on the first page of the sales ads which are getting pushed off the page.
     
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    Wow- YES- gigantic upgrade. My two biggest issues with the For Sale section is the lack of an asking price and the "Selling for a friend". Since this is a community and selling here is s privilege, I think it should be "For sale by owner" and a separate section for dealers who are paying for the privilege of marketing to us here.

    BAT's auctions have been tremendously successful, but as you can see from recent listings is now dominated by dealers and professional car flippers. Not sure why we would want that here.

    As someone who has bought around a half dozen cars from the classifieds here, I think it is a welcome upgrade.
     
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  8. Nospinzone

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    I like it, a significant improvement, I just bought a Packard! :D
     
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    As a CCCA member I think this would be a huge mistake. Why anyone is trusting Speed Digital I have no idea. Free websites with low upfront "deposits" and revenue sharing with Speed Digital. What a terrible idea.
     
  10. rob lay

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    First of all FerrariChat is part of the Speed Digital company. It isn’t costing FerrariChat anything and they have a great best in class system we can customize how we wish and make better. We’ll figure out what we offer free, with a subscription, or with a fee. You aren’t forced to do that though and we’ll still keep the existing system around awhile in parallel. In the end it is an individual’s choice where to sell their car auction 6%+, BAT 3%, dealer consignment 5%+, or the lowest fee of all with the most Ferrari enthusiasts... FerrariChat.
     
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    What do you mean by BaT 3%?
     
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  13. Jaguar36

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    Bring-a-Trailer's fee is 5% but its capped at $5k, I assume Rob was just doing some averaging based on the average sales price since alot of Ferrari's would exceed that cap.
     
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    I understand. He said “sell” though. That’s a fixed cost of $99.
     
  15. rob lay

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    Still costs you 5% (I guess) up to $5k for a sale.

    We don't know what our pricing model is yet, so certainly no one else can complain about it YET. :) I will tell you that our intent is to provide a great system and we already gave a great community and audience. Also our intention to be far more competitive than Auction Houses, Consignments, and BAT. Sorry, what was the rub again?
     
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    FYI, you can click on the green "For Sale" balloon to the left of any listing and it will switch ALL the listings to for sale only.
     
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    That is an excellent tip. Thanks! :cool:

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  18. Red 27

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    Tom, thanks for the tip.
     
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    Probably it would be interesting to filter vehicles by location/country since this is a VERY important metric for the sale/buy, mostly if foreign country.
     
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    Any estimate for the time frame for roll-out of a new for sale section? Just curious....
     
  21. Stevenb

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    It would be helpful to require mileage and price in the title before you click on the link. I have seen quiet a few “low mileage” advertised cars that come with high mileage.

    Maybe add a general form that must be filled out accurately like msrp, price, mileage, year, transmission and the like
     
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  22. Laserguru

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    Definition of high mileage here is seriously different than with any other car brand. What is yours? One set of folks in this community see <15k as low mileage and anything above 20k as damn near worn out. Another group swears that low mileage cars are by definition poorly maintained because they all get better as you drive them and the engines don't even bed in and wake up before 20k miles. With 230k miles on my 97 M3 (the best car I've ever owned), and <12k on my 456M, my definitions of mileage are somewhat discordant.
     
  23. Stevenb

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    In regards to Ferrari/exotics I see everything above 10k miles as high mileage for the modern cars because the values start to dip at that number and dealers are starting to gouge. 20k+ for the older ones. The fact that needs to be considered is that there are people who want the under 10k mile classics for future values or just to preserve them at low mileage. If someone posts low mileage and it ends up being 50k miles it’s definitely not low mileage for a lot of us.
     
  24. rob lay

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    I would hope within 2 months, but requires our development team that is backed up.
     
  25. Laserguru

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    LOL, yeah, my software group is like that too!!
     
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