Oil Additive "Tutela" for 599 GTB

Tutela as far as I know is the recommended oil for the 575 F1 system. Why would they put it in the engine?

 

There is more than one type of Tutela and the one they are adding is to quiet down the hydraulic lifters until they pump up with oil as she warms up. That is what you are hearing and it will cause no problems. Personally, I could put up with the lifter noise rather than having snake oil put in my crankcase to quiet the lifters. We have the same thing in 575Ms, but the quieter 612s and 599s are the only ones generating complaints about lifter noise.

Tutela CS Speed is a synthetic hydraulic fluid/ATF used in power steering and F1/Selespeed systems.

 

The Tutela oil additive for the 599 is standard issue for 599. It is in the engine from the factory and is part of the oil change. I am sure this is why you were not asked. I have had no issues with its use in any 599 I have had in for service.
Just keep the oil level at bottom mark on the high/low mark. This is when the engine is COMPLETELY hot. If it gets too high it will vent off into the intake as it is designed to do. The bottom high/low mark still has plenty of oil in the system.
Enjoy driving.

 

Wade- Do you think it is necessary because of the 10W-60 oil taking a while to get into the lifters or is it the lifter design? Is there a mention of the Tutela in a tech bulletin or in MODIS? There is nothing I see in the lubricants charts in the owners manuals through 2010.

 

Marvel Mystery Oil with a dash of Sea Foam?
Not for me...
I don't mind listening to the audience chatter, as the symphony warms up.
Nothing like 12 cylinders. I've had my first Ferrari, a 2009 612 for only three months and am elated!
FWIW (likely nothing), I'll be servicing my F at a dealership (FoA), but will forego the additive.

 

Try shutting it down slower easier. Let it idle a little before shut down. You will notice less clatter when starting.

 

Congratulations on the 599. Seems like its all ok. She's a great car.

 

Do not leave out the additive. It is specifically called out for in Ferrari technical documentation for the valve train and the variable valve timing operation. Leaving it out will cause issues and potentially a check engine light because it cannot control the valve timing properly.

 

Greetings from Dubai!

I just found out that my private garage refuses to use Tutela as his experience proves issues in long term. I checked also service records at Ferrari official dealer at Oman and there is also just the Shell oil noted, no Tutela.

I recently get engine check light but it seems related to rear catalytic converter or sensor. Now I wonder what engine error would appear if the problem was due to a valve timing issue as described above?

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I learn something everyday. I always thought oil additives and things like it to be band-aids for problems. To think it is SOP for oil changes on a 599 is laughable. Some Mustang Gen2+ V8 motors have what is described as a "BBQ tick" that noise you get when you light your BBQ with a Bick triggered lighter. It is a total joke. Mustang guys add Ceratec to their motor oil and it mostly goes away. No one can agree on what the noise is or why some motors have it.

 

Tutela FVI (Ferrari Viscosity Improver) is quite similar to STP, but unlike STP, this is a Ferrari approved product.

I use it in my vintage cars . Once I've changed the oil I add a bit of additive until the high temp oil pressure is within spec. As a side benefits, makes my timing chain less noisy during startup. Works quite well, but I would not put the full bottle in a car as a single glass of the product does increase the viscosity a lot. Also some of the product ends-up in the oil catch can.

All in all works well but use sparingly.

 

Oil out of the bottle is an engineered product with an additive package designed to work with the base stock of that design. Can anyone explain why it is a good idea to put in foreign additives never designed or tested to work with the engineered oil? These cars are not driven much and oils time out more than they are used up. Oil tests are definitive for oil condition and oil change interval. Oil boosters and additives work but bandaid problems or deficiencies. An example might be old motors needing tetra ethyl lead or ZDDP. If the additive package in the engineered oil is being used up then it is time to change the oil not extend it's life with boosters and additives. The time that kind of thing makes sense is when money is on the line in commercial industrial settings where a cost benefit analysis is done for or against additives or lubricant change.

 

It is a band aid used so Ferrari does not have to admit they are 40 years behind in lifter design. Chevy Ford and Chrysler had it figured out by the mid 70s, The Japanese just copied us and had it down just a couple of years later. The Germans finally got it about 20 years later and the Italians? Well its 2021 now. We'll see.

My Ford truck has 145,000 miles and has lifter noise about like our E55 Mercedes when new and about the same as new Ferrari's.








But everone knows American cars are junk.

 

I use it in 40 years old cars ... (with loose timing chains, and noisy rocker arms)

As said it does make cold start much less noisy and increases hot oil pressure (A LOT). Adding a glass (<20cl) of this product to 5lites of Motul 10w40 roughly gives the same hot pressure I had with Igol 10w60. As far as the 599/612 are concerned, Ferrari add this product to an already thick oil (10w60). I do not know how much additional viscosity they were trying to achieve on the but must be high. Maybe that in the long run this thick oil could be an issue?

As this product was specifically designed for use in conjunction with the Shell oil on the 612/599, at least one should not be concerned about mixing it with the Shell oil it was designed to work with.

More info on the subject : https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/fvi-booster-oil-additive.520954/

 

It was actually added to help with variator operation at hot engine and oil. Ferrari was having some issues with camshaft and crankshaft correlation errors. They changed the variator design in the GTO version and did away with the additiove.

 

Source?

 

Here is one place

https://store.millermotorcars.com/products/ferrari-599-sport-fvi-boost-oil

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So primarily as a viscosity modifier to increase viscosity when hot? Very interesting...

 

Dominick- No, I meant where did he get that information.

 

It's not a magic product that only increases hot viscosity: it does increase also cold viscosity.

The safety data-sheet does not provide comprehensive details "Severely refined mineral and/or synthetic oils, additives". Looks like a semi-synthetic formula. For lack of better information, at first sight, it does look like an old-school product: amber colour, and smell is closer to mineral gear oil than modern POE. When cold it's thick. By contrast modern Esther additives are usually clear, almost odourless and reasonably fluid in the bottle, as they do get thicker with heat:

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At the end of the day, I like the product (1/approved by Ferrari, 2/tames noisy engine, 3/increase oil pressure and 4/cheap), but one has to bear in mind that it features 320cst at 100°C (regular SAE 50 oil is 18cst, SAE60 is 24cst). I suspect the full 1L bottle can increase viscosity beyond reasonable boundaries.

I've included the data-sheets.

 

Having no issues of cold clicking at 80k kms, I will keep not using as it doesn't appear to be added also in the past by Ferrari service looking at service records.

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I get the noise when the engine is hot, loud ticking...I'm told that the Variators are the issues and they just get tappety.... factory uses the additive to help quiet them... more annoying that a problem