oil change

Welcome to Ferrarichat.
Use Redline engine oil. It rates highly in paps book.

 

Well, I just go for what ferrari recommended themselves in those days:

the holy saint: AGIP SINT 2000!

 

Hi,
10W-50 (10winter-50) is obviously not the brand, but the viscosity.
Any well known brand of the same viscosity will do (Castrol, Mobil, Shell, Valvoline, Quaker, Pennzoil, etc. etc.)
Ferrari recommends Agip, an Italian brand that here is either impossible to find or if you do you get gauged for: it is not better than any of the above!
Good luck.
Saluti,

 

Are you sure it's 10W50? My 86TR owners manual says Agip SINT 2000 SAE 10W40...

 

In the warmer climates, we use the 20w50 Valvoline racing which worked well.
up north, the agip sint 2000 10w40 which is still available.
http://www.americanagip.com/shoppingCart/productCatalog.asp?HeaderNav=-1&Nav=Full+Synthetic+Motor+Oil&SubNav=4&CustomerId=&SubId=27

we use royal purple in the 512BBLM for the engine and gearbox.
http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/rpro.html

regards, Jim

 

SINT *means* synthetic in Agip lingo...

 

Somebody link to AEHaas' motor oil bible... I used to have it bookmarked, but that was on my old computer, and I can't seem to find it anymore. It's a great read, though.

 

Do not use the owners manual to select an oil. In fact, I find that even new cars of today are a cycle behind in what the owners manual recommends. You have to find better oils. Do not use a 1960’s oil if a 2006 oil is available. A 10W-50 oil of the 1980’s may thin to a 0W-30 in as little as 1,000 miles. The engine manufacturers knew this and made the appropriate recommendation. Therefore the engine can in fact run with a 20 or 30 wt. oil assuming there is no excessive wear. Today's 10W-40 oils will stay that way and may even be too thick in the long run.

Read the following then make an informed decision:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=258506&an=0&page=0#Post258506

If you are not racing the car on the race track then many people may use a 5W-40 or better yet a 0W-40. I used 0W-20 Mobil 1 in my Maranello 575 and oil analysis showed less wear than with the manual’s recommended 5W-40 Shell Helix Ultra. My Enzo manual recommends 10W-60 Helix Ultra yet I am not racing the car. The oil never gets above 180 F. I am using a 0W-30 wt. oil.

Synthetic in Italian is sintetico.

aehaas

 

Ya gotta just love good ol' Ali.

 

I am using Amsoil 10-40 100% synth. right now on my 84 308 QV and it's about low 28 to high 49 deg. F, is this OK for winter?

 

Amsoil is very good stuff. If you are going to experience cold temps of about 20F and below, I would consider changing to 5-30W. If the temp is going to be frequently higher than 20F, then I would stick with the 10-40W. Just make sure the car gets warmed up a bit before driving it hard.

 

Yes I do warm it up for about 5 to 8 min. before driving it. Thank you John

 

"Yes I do warm it up for about 5 to 8 min. before driving it."

This is not good. You should start the car and go lightly on the gas. It is better to use minimal throttle and yet warm up the engine faster by driving.

I think a good start would be a 0W-40 such as Mobil 1. You should really sign up for the web site if that is required and read the chapters. I may just re-post them here.

aehaas

 

I switched to Mobil One 0W-40 upon reading Oil 101 and my 328 is much happier...temps don't get too cold in town (avg 40F-ish).

Another note...since I switched, and started driving this car like I beleive it should, no more leaks...

 

The AGIP Oil that ferrari recommends is available at American Agip.com. They will sell it to you but it will take them a month to give you a customer number.

It is an Egyptian Oil company, not Italian as someone above mentioned. Sint 2000 is their replacement for the 10-50 original. It is a 10-40 grade.
Also a company called ferracci.com will ship it to you. very dependable.

I use Castrol 20-50 blend. I have notice fewer to no drips after switching, and good oil pressure etc. Get it at Advance Auto supply..

Good luck

 

Hi,
At the end of the day I believe you got more than you bargained for, or enough info to get drunk from it.
In an effort to stay away from being pedantic or prolix, since I am not a professor, but a simple engineer, I will give you the following suggestions:
1-use syntetic as it is the best oil to withstand heat
2-use a multigrade oil (i.e. 10W-40)
3-use as low W viscosity rating as you feel comfortable of doing for the area where you live (i.e. 0W; 5W; 10W) to get as good lubrication at start-up as possible
4-if you do not find a 50 viscosity rating, a 40 will do and even a 30 will do no harm if you do not abuse your car (i.e. race it).
Finally, Agip is Italian and definitely not Egyptian.
I know because I used to buy fuel from them.
Good luck,
Saluti,

 

My BB512i OM called for Agip SINT 200 10w-50...I was using Mobile1 15w-50, but have been using Castrol TWS 10w-60 which is the oil required by BMW for my former e39 M5 and current e60 M5...I have noted a cooler oil temp and no smoke on start-up since the change... http://www.dasautosport.com/store/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?pg=prod&ref=Castrol_TWS_10_60

 

BMW knows what's best !
Saluti,
A.

 

How on earth can it not be good to warm up your car at idle before driving it?