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Oil cooler removal and restoration

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  1. Tony Mill

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    Hi all. It’s my oil cooler (3.0 qv 1984) that has failed and the core/element is leaking badly (not the hoses). Does it need to go on a ramp at a dealer to remove it, or if it can be done at home? What is the best method and what needs removing for accessibility? Would you remove the hoses at the engine end or the radiator end? Then has anyone had one re-cored and successfully repaired in the UK? Any guidance much appreciated! Cheers! Tony
     
  2. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Take the hoses out with it. All it is is a core with fittings attached. Buy a new one.
     
  3. mike32

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    Have a look at the diagram on the Eurospares web site , from what i can see it might be easier to remove both ends of the pipes as compression one end and banjo fittings other end. Assuming you have room. Superperformance list new rads if u get stuck.
     
  4. Rifledriver

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    There are no compression fittings on the oil hoses.
     
  5. theunissenguido

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    This is the best way ! you risk to break the fittings on the oil cooler itself.
     
  6. mike32

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    Bit hard to see on the drawing, is it a coned end on the radiator end ?
     
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  8. Tony Mill

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    Oh yes this looks like it. The other gentleman above suggested the Superperformance uprated cooler £535 plus VAT. Where is that one from? Thanks!
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  9. Tony Mill

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  10. 85QVEuro

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    Tony - that oil cooler is from a 1985 mondial (euro) - I'm not sure what is "uprated" about the SP version in that picture but they also sell the one below though it looks like it's special order and and exchange - maybe call some other vendors to see who has what and at what price or have your original repaired

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  11. Tony Mill

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    Ah yes, thanks. Will do that, but in principle do you think this in-stock SP “uprated one” would for a 1984 MONDIAL QV with the original hoses? It’s a British car so does that qualify as “euro”? Cheers and kind regards!
     
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  12. 85QVEuro

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    Tony - since SP lists that uprated cooler in the section for Mondial QV, I would suspect that it should fit. As for British/Euro vs. US, the threads on the oil cooler should be the same. But, given the cost and the fact that you probably want to get your car back on the road, you may want to lob a call into SP and double check about fitment (threads for the hoses and actual mounting) before ordering...
     
  13. mike32

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    You could change those fitting if they did not match up- bearing in mind how old the hoses are, check for any wear marks on the hose end.
     
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  14. John A. Muller

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    I just had this done to my 1980 GTBi and it was all done without having to remove the engine. I got a factory rebuilt oil cooler, 2 hoses and necessary part from Italian Car Parts in Oregon, USA. I had the work done at Rosso Service, Forrest Hill, MD. Work done in under 8 hours. The oil cooler is easily damaged if not careful, so I understand that they detach the hoses at the cooler last. I chose to have it done by the professionals even though it cost more. Parts were $2.100 and shop was $1,700. It is hard to find an oil cooler, so start shopping now...Not cheap.
     
  15. Tony Mill

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    Thanks all, will let you know how it goes next week!
     
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  16. John A. Muller

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    Good luck, Tony!
     
  17. Tony Mill

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    Thanks all my new friends It was so funny to stumble across my new car here. Genuinely shocked!
     
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  19. Tony Mill

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    I’d said I’d report back. The oil cooler from Superperformance seems great at GBP 600. Shiltech in Loughborough UK were absolutely superb and squeezed me in. So grateful to them, they are fantastic. Others in the midlands here didn’t even call me back to collect the car even though they initially said they would. So it’s gone from 10 miles with two runs to 80 miles after today haha! Speedo problem was loose wire interestingly, not sender or unit…
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    Yes it does.
     

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