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  1. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

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    #1 First Ferrari, Jan 31, 2010
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    95' 348

    Anyone know the size wrench needed to remove-tighten number 5 and or 20. I have an oil leak that appears to be coming from that area and I would like to see if I can remove and reinstall that hose to see. It is just a drip but it is driving me nuts. The leak is low on the engine so I am assuming that it is coming from that hose connection, I may also order number 10, fresh union gaskets to make sure that all is fresh to stop the drip, so if that is the case anyone know the size for that union "bolt" it is number 11.

    http://www.ricambiamerica.com/parts_catalogs.php?M=FE&P=&V=diag&I=219
     
  2. PAP 348

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    I forgot what sizes those big pipe fitting are Chris. :):)

    I actually had a leak from that banjo fitting 10-11 going into the block on the engine. It was just a few drips after every run. :):)

    I was going to remove it and replace that copper washer but I thought I would just 'nip' it up first incase thats all it needed. And that is ALL that was needed. I think I tightened it 1/4 turn more. It hasnt leaked since. :D:D

    I also forget what size that is as it was a few years ago. But I think a 24mm socket will fit. ;);)

    Perhaps try to nip it up first mate. It may be a little loose. :):)

    I have some pics somewhere showing where it leaking. :):)
     
  3. First Ferrari

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    Thanks PAP as usual good info, I will try tighting that union, if anyone has the size of the wrench needed for the oil lines just in case that would be helpful. I think it is also leaking from the line into the cooler, maybe just a slight turn may take care of it.



     
  4. PAP 348

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    Too easy mate. Let us know how you get along. :D:D
     
  5. saw1998

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    Chris:

    Check the torque in the WSM before you tighten it. Don't over-torque it, as you can crack the banjo fitting or crack the bolt (remember JamesNZ's F355). If it won't stop leaking at the proper torque setting, order the copper crush washers from Ricambi and do it right, don't just keep on cranking until it stops.
     
  6. 2NA

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    Chris,

    To R&R those hoses you will need: 30, 32, 36, 41 (thin) and 46mm wrenches. It is important to support both fittings to avoid overtightening or damaging threads (particularly where one of them is screwed into aluminum).

    It is possible that they are leaking from the fittings (the car I'm working on now had fittings that were not very tight). It is also quite possible that the hose itself is weeping a bit of oil.

    These hoses are big money from Ferrari and seem to be a frequent source of leakage. I am looking into more cost-effective sources of replacements.



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  7. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Call your nearest Pirtek or Enzed man to make them hoses. :D:D

    Thats what I will be doing if any of mine leak. :eek::eek:
     
  8. saw1998

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    +1, Pap! I had all my oil hoses "re-built" in my 308s and 328 with braided SS Teflon line. Any good hydraulic hose shop can do it for you for next to nothing (compared to the OEM prices).
     
  9. 2NA

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    The 30mm fittings are readily available, I have used them to upgrade Countach oil lines. The 38mm fittings are a bit harder to come up with.

    I have a hydraulic hose shop (a competitor of Pirtek) and a Caterpillar dealer about a mile from here, neither place has listings for those fittings.
     
  10. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    If you have an airport you probably have an FAA hose shop. Mine reuses all the fittings, never needed to buy a new one. In my experience the FAA approved guys are better at their job and can save the fittings because the airplane parts are expensive too. The tractor guys just want to reach in a box and use new parts. They also often have less tooling to deal with more obscure fitting types and sizes.
     
  11. 2NA

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    Good advice.
     
  12. saw1998

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    Actually Brian, my hydraulic hose guy re-used almost all the hose ends, especially the proprietary OEM (you know, the ones with the shaped tubing going to a threaded fitting). But I absolutely agree with you any FAA certified shop would be the first choice, if available. BTW, Aeroquip hoses and fitting can't be beat.
     
  13. Rifledriver

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    You have a good one then. They are out there.
     

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