Oil pump chain tensioner, where can I get one of these? | Page 2 | FerrariChat

Oil pump chain tensioner, where can I get one of these?

Discussion in '348/355' started by Headrips, Jun 30, 2010.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. chas-3

    chas-3 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 28, 2009
    1,281
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Chuck
    Trumped by Daniel again . . . guess I'll just wander back to my dark little corner and watch this play out. ;-)
     
  2. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

    Jan 3, 2004
    4,629
    Full Name:
    Dave Helms
    #27 davehelms, Jul 1, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  3. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

    Jan 3, 2004
    4,629
    Full Name:
    Dave Helms
    No truer words ever posted!
     
  4. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

    Aug 4, 2006
    8,329
    Palos Verdes
    Full Name:
    Vince V
    Brilliant! Um, just curious, but why did the factory not use a tensioner pulley? Seemed it would have been subject to a lot less wear.
     
  5. Headrips

    Headrips Rookie

    May 24, 2010
    49
    Orlando
    Full Name:
    Scott
    Wow....how long was your wait? I've been in the car business for 15 years and this is the first time I've ever seen a part that you just can't get! But I'm stoked that there are guys like Dave out there with the skill to get things done....very impressive
     
  6. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

    Jan 3, 2004
    4,629
    Full Name:
    Dave Helms
    Im in my 40th year and I have a shop load with the same situation as this. In a number of cases you Can get parts.... but they dont work. "You want it to WORK TOO?"
     
  7. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

    Feb 6, 2009
    34,789
    Ontario, Canada
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Excellent point Dave - nobody wants to replace garbage with garbage.
     
  8. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,234
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    Awesome Dave! :D:D

    My shout for beers one day mate! :D:D

    Put me down for one of them when you get them all sorted mate. I will replace mine when I do the major. :):)
     
  9. chas-3

    chas-3 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 28, 2009
    1,281
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Chuck
    Dave, that is a beautiful site man!! Waiting these past few months for this to come to fruition has been filled with anxiety (at least for me, maybe you too). That is just beautiful. And it looks like there are a few more in need than you thought. Crank those babies out!! Damn, I can hardly wait to get "Big Red" back in the stable.
     
  10. 3forty8

    3forty8 F1 Rookie
    Owner

    Apr 25, 2006
    2,713
    San Diego
    Full Name:
    Eric
    I don't know what the heck we would do without Dave. My electronics work because of his connector kit. I'm in the process of upgrading to his hoses so they won't be eaten away or rot from today's fuel/ethanol mixtures.

    Actually, I do know what we would do - we would have a lot more cars sitting around undriven for lack of a small frigging part being unavailable.
     
  11. MaterMech

    MaterMech Formula Junior

    Feb 26, 2007
    476
    Los Gatos CA
    Full Name:
    Mark Johnson
    #36 MaterMech, Jul 1, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    Dave, I've had this question for a long time and no one seems to be able to answer it. When I replaced mine it did not come with the little nipple that rides on the end of the spring. I figure that with the nipple/oil restrictor in place the tensioner pushes a little harder on the chain. The strange thing is that the metal housing already has a restrictor in it. Was my chain tensioner missing the nipple and with that said does it need it, or was it updated? I have been running without it and I have not had any issues. I serviced a friends 348 and his had that nipple in what appeared to be a newer part like mine. Also it has a hole drilled throught the pad material which I can't figure out why since the supplied oil runs out from behind the pad a drizzles down on the chain. What are your ideas on this?
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  12. P4AntonLM

    P4AntonLM Karting

    Dec 31, 2007
    156
    Austria
    Full Name:
    Anton Schicho
    #37 P4AntonLM, Jul 2, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  13. P4AntonLM

    P4AntonLM Karting

    Dec 31, 2007
    156
    Austria
    Full Name:
    Anton Schicho
    the little hole, is to lubricate the pad, against exessive pad wear I guess.
     
  14. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

    Dec 29, 2006
    18,221
    Twin Cities
    Full Name:
    Tim Keseluk
    Good job.

    After all, it ain't rocket science.
     
  15. chas-3

    chas-3 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 28, 2009
    1,281
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Chuck
    Are you sure vesconite will stand up to the internal temperature of the 348 motor? From their website: Temperature rating of Vesconite
    Typically Vesconite and Vesconite Hilube are limited to 100° to 120°C (212° to 248°F) in dry conditions and 60° to 70°C (140° to 158°F) in immersed conditions.
    For higher operating temperatures, please contact VescoPlastics with details of your application.
     
  16. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,234
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    Cool man, nice work. :D:D

    Is it fitted and has it held up? :):)

    How many miles on it? :):)
     
  17. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

    Jan 3, 2004
    4,629
    Full Name:
    Dave Helms
    Nope, it sure isnt.

    Chosing the correct material, that's a whole different matter and took months of research. After the rough in machine work I am quite sure the research was worth the time. My pratice pieces were out of nylon, teflon and delrin... all a cake walk to machine, we do that daily for the race cars.
     
  18. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
    Sponsor Owner

    To bump an old thread, this is quite interesting.

    I have here in my hands the original tensioner from my 1990 348. It is black. I have seen pictures of them also in brown and in white. Curiously, those three colors correspond exactly to what Vesco says are the available variants of Vesconite:

    BLACK: This is the standard grade of Vesconite for pump bearing applications. VESCONITE gives an excellent balance between low coefficient of friction, long life, good abrasion resistance, and cost. Limited dry start capabilities. Thrives with water as a lubricant. Good chemical and abrasion resistance. Extended shaft life. No water swell. High dimensional stability.


    WHITE: This is the preferred choice when dry starts and low lube conditions exist. Vesconite HiLube is very successful in deep well applications where dry starts can last a minute or more. PV (pressure x velocity) limit is almost twice that of standard Vesconite. Good chemical and abrasion resistance. Extended shaft life. No water swell. High dimensional stability.


    BROWN: Vesconite's HiTemp 150 and Vesconite's HiTemp 230 are the choice materials for use above 176°F (80°C) in wet applications. Excellent rigidity and toughness. Low friction. High wear resistance. Good load carrying capabilities. Each product reacts differently to chemicals and radiation – (see chemical resistance chart).

    http://www.hydro-watt.com/vesconite/VesconiteProperties.htm
     
  19. P4AntonLM

    P4AntonLM Karting

    Dec 31, 2007
    156
    Austria
    Full Name:
    Anton Schicho
    #44 P4AntonLM, Jul 10, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  20. P4AntonLM

    P4AntonLM Karting

    Dec 31, 2007
    156
    Austria
    Full Name:
    Anton Schicho
  21. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

    Dec 29, 2006
    18,221
    Twin Cities
    Full Name:
    Tim Keseluk
    Similar (as are Jaguar and MG) but not quite the same.
     
  22. Headrips

    Headrips Rookie

    May 24, 2010
    49
    Orlando
    Full Name:
    Scott
    Good news to update this thread....Turns out after my tech collaborated with Mr. Helms..who turned out to be a huge help. (thanks, Dave, owe you a beer!)...the tensioner was chipped in areas that the chain does not come in direct contact with.....new bearings on the pulley shaft fixed the problem......will look for more chips in next oil change, but I'm told it will be fine for many more years! Got my car back yesterday after a full engine out service, and all I can say is WOW.......car drives as it should......wasn't paying attention and wound up a little over 130 today solid as a rock......Speedworks in Osteen Fl did a fantastic job at a reasonable price.....now I know why everyone loves these cars!
     
  23. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

    Jan 3, 2004
    4,629
    Full Name:
    Dave Helms

    Old school materials, once considered cutting edge. Technology has moved on along with the material price!

    I ordered in every English and Japanese car variant I could think of before moving forward on this, all slightly different in design.

    Headrips,
    Bill wants a handful of these when they are finished... he will have them in hand before yours proves unserviceable.
     
  24. Headrips

    Headrips Rookie

    May 24, 2010
    49
    Orlando
    Full Name:
    Scott
    Thanks again Dave! Can't wait to see the finished product!
     
  25. chas-3

    chas-3 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 28, 2009
    1,281
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Chuck

Share This Page