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I don't think the mousehair is the same, or even similar to, Alcantara. The Alcantara in other cars I have owned does not look or feel similar, and certainly doesn't have the subtle graining that the mousehair does. Mark
This is basically what i was thinking the "flocking" on the Dino vinyl that results in the "mousehide" is. It would explain everything that has been said about it. The purpose of the flocking, of course, is to prevent excessive reflections in the windshield, and this would be a cheap way of doing it. Jim
I have a sample winging it's way to me from Frost's will let you all know how black it is/is'nt or how shiny/reflective it is/is'nt, if you see what i mean! G P
Just a Networking thought. I met a guy recently with a early 70s 365gtb and he had just had the interior and exterior redone And he had original Mouse Hair done. The car was so amazing I begged him for the painter and interior place he had it done and he stated it was air shipped to Germany and Flown back to Socal.. JJ
Graham, If the Black turns out to be too black, check out the Nightingale...for that slightly aged/seasoned look (especially for those of us with slightly aged/seasoned machines). 'kinda hard to tell the shades from the swatch. My car is a very presentable driver. However, it shares the pain of many: The seemingly original dash is nearly hairless (lovely texture & color on the undersides--not so on the top surfaces). The flawless, brand new look that many folks need for their show-quality cars would look out of place on mine. I trust that a solution for original cars and older restorations, as well as fresh resto projects, is out there waiting to be discovered. We may even have to go to separate sources for the different applications. I believe someone is checking out Constantine's flocking kits? Thanks for researching Frost's product; I'm looking forward to your observations. Cheers, Coop
If it is the same mouse hair as used on the 365GT4/BB,they may have it at www.owners.ferrari.com classic parts section.
I asked over the phone today re the Nightingale colour, my thinking was as yours, that maybe this may be a more "subtle" black with a kind of greyish hue to it if you like. But the guy at the other end said that it actually had a blue/green hue to it so i ruled it out. Graham
What makes everyone think that the mousehair should be anything different than what we can get from Re-originals? Scaglietti built the Dino, and the 288 GTO. Have a look at the very black mouse hair on the 288 GTO, looks just like what we get from Re-originals.
The Re-Originals mousehair (that I received) and the original 288 GTO dash material (at least on my GTO and the spare GTO material I have) are completely different. Steve
Looks like I'm going withthe mousehair that Dennis McCann has. It does have the white back, it appears to be a little thicker than I'd like, but it does have the proper appearance and has the underlying vinyl with the ridges in it like the original material. The folks doing my dash did one three years ago with the same material. That car has won platinum or gold (he wasn't wuite sure) at FCA national events. The material I had, thinner, dark grey back, had no ridges to the finish, and would have been difficult (but not impossible) to use. but it did not have the correct appearance. So, if any of you need a nice roll of mousehair, that appears to be correct for the daytona, but not the Dino, lemme know. I'm also going to recover all the vinly bits while I'm at it, and we'll take plenty of pictures. I'll probably run a thread, with pix, as it progresses. Dave
i used material that I bought from Dennis McCann on my 74 gts and it looks just great to me. You guys may have deeper insight into this than i do. However, I can notice the stitching on the seams of the door of the glovebox and it looks a little white to me. I might run a black magic marker over it to hide it. I will try an inconspicuous spot first. I am about to redo a '71 euro gt that has a leather dash (in a buckskin color like the seats). I am curious before I pull the dash if any of these cars came with a leather dash that matched the seats? It is an early car and has grommets in the seats (yes, GB this is yours). I almost pulled it last night but wanted to triple check first. I thought that they all came with the black mousehair dash. Thanks
i have never heard of a dino being delivered with anything other than the mousehair. however, we all know that when it comes to ferrari's, money talks.
I recall a reference in one of the books or magazine articles that you could get the dino with a vinyl dash, at least the early ones. I could be full of hot air, I'll dig around tonight and se eif I can find it. DM
thanks ...this interior has been redone so it is not original. However, someone did a nice job & spent some dough in redoing it. the quality is top notch but all I can see when I look at it is the wrong color dash. I will likely pull it this week. I assumed that it was wrong but wanted to double check first. thanks
Futurline In Exton PA did the work. He had finished several Dino dashes and felt that the material from Dennis McCann was the best available at this time. Dennis's material is white backed, but careful work from Mark avoided any problems there. The roll of material I had, while a little thinner, was slightly darker and did not have the graining that shows on the photo below. Mark at Futureline thought that this particular roll of moushair was correct for what Ferrari offered in the 80's, or might have been for a Daytona dash. I'm not sure. I'm sending a piece of the material to wspeer this week for comparison. I also had the console, door trim and other bits recovered while I was at it. Here are a couple pix. I'll have work in process pictures from Mark later this week. Oh, and all in, including material the dash was right around $1000. That icluded some serious fiberglass repair, but doesn't include the R&R of the dash itself. Dave Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Looks nice Dave. I tried the sample of flock that i was sent by Frosts here in the UK, It was a poor job to say the least, probably due in part to the fact that they only sent me a miserly spoon full and i probably used the incorrect type of adhesive! But i think i may send for a proper kit and try it on a larger area of spare vinyl before i completely write it off. G P
Dave- I am doing the same thing to my dash & just bought a roll of mousehair ($150 bucks per yard!) from Dennis Welch. As I said previously the material from Dennis looked great on the other dash that I did. I also have to recover the console & door tops...where did you get that material? It looks pretty good to me. By the way if you are redoing your carpets you can get great material from Hirsch. I bought several yards of blue carpet & cut out the new pieces using the old carpets as a template. I then had them bound with binding material that I also bought. All in I think it cost me $150 bucks (not including my time ..but pretty easy). I think re-originals wanted $800 bucks for the carpets alone. However, there may be concours award issues with my carpets vs theirs. I am not entering any contests so I dont care and it looks pretty good.
I bought carpets three years ago from World Upholstery They look great, although they did require trimming around the foot well vents. I don't know where the other material came from. My upholsterer had it in stock!! Said it was easy to come by. World Upholstery also has that material, for not a whole ton of money per yard, although they have not been great at returing calls or emails recently. I guess I'm not the only one doing interior work over the winter. Dave
One more picture, which I hope shows the difference in the materials. left, I used. You can see the ribbing in the vinyl through the flocking. On the right is the smoother, thinner material. DM Image Unavailable, Please Login
