On Michael's move (Spoiler)...

The world has MS under a micrscope, alwaysd had. If they blame him and Ferrari for wrecking F1 {which is insane by the way} then they will review anything he does. I'm sure people will try to blame the common cold on him next. Achoo!!!

 

At the time you don't know for sure how much fuel these guys had, I thought Ferrari would "pit" both cars, but I'm sure they had their reasons. And for Ferrari a win is always "in the cards".

 

Listen.... you might be a die-hard sports fan, and I'm just a guy that watches a race on TV. I am sorry if I'm rubbing you the wrong way. Don't mean any harm.

I just found a big pool of people that want to blame JPM for MS tire lock-up and it makes for some interesting internet chatter.

No need for name calling.

 

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These things happen. I am sure Michael thinks Montoya was to blame and vice versa. I think Ralf's move was worse. What an entertaining race it was though. I got my fiance to watch it with me and she was even entertained. I thought it was great that Truli won.

 

Ferraris failure to pit MS???? They don't follow your thinking so they are wrong? I won't touch this one.

 

Get some sleep. Just because the bosses of F1 don't assign balme, doesn't mean there wasn't any. Just no enough to make "a go of it". Good night to you.

 

Bashing takes all belief out of what you say. When you show your bias, you "undermine" yourself.

 

I don't think he saw everone slow down. The smoke was thing and streched a long way back. He may have had a concern about being run over. It's all a guessing game in that situation. He guessed wrong. I would have backed off. But I wouldn't have slowed down to DC's speed either.

 

Heheheh you're funny!

 

And if JM passed MS it would not be millions of dollars. If that was the caes all sponsers of all cars would make Hundreds of millions per year and Ferrari/Mclaren/Williams sponsers would all make billions each year. Jack Danials bottles are easy to open.

 

1000 years ago if "Monaco" lost the war there would be no race at all. Wow Deep. And "40 yards of rubber"? 120 feet is a long way going slow as hell. It's common for tires to lock up while heating them. Watch the start of this seasons races, you will see it over and over. And they were on their wat out of the tunnel too.

 

Matchless was a nickname of a guy in highschool who was on the debate team. No one could take him down on any subject. Your post reminded me of him. It's a good name.
And we are a pool of guys blaming a lapped cars for being up a leader buttocks with 5 miles to go befor a restart.

 

There is no way JM would win. How far behind did he finish? And under another 3 or 4 miles of Yellow flag, he wasn't any closer to the finish line.

 

"My guy" didn't "lock-up on a safety lap and wreck his car." "My guy" was warming his brakes when a "backmarker guy" plowed into him. Yeah, that's the same.

 

Thanks for the info. I enjoyed debating with you. Had some fun, and now I have to go back to work.

 

I just worked 36 hours in 3 days. I'm taking Tuesday off.
I'm also looking for a new place to "work".

 

I've got to say I'm pretty impressed by the professionalism displayed by both drivers in addressing the incident. While JPM probably realizes he should have left more space, I wouldn't be surprised if Michael was kicking himself for heating the brakes in the tunnel. Not the smartest spot for that. Most amazing is that the two drivers seemed to have buried the issue in less time/space than FerrariChat!

 

Why did MS go so close to the wall? If JPM had passed him wouldn't JPM have gotten some penalty or something?

 

It looked to me like once he locked up his tires he lost control a bit. Not sure if that's a punishable offense when the driver in front has a problem.

 

But even if it wasn't a punishable offense, would he lose position or would JPM be forced to go back behind MS? Seems like going so close to the wall had no purpose.

 

Oh, this is good! "My mind is pretty clear." You got that right!

As far as MS "not leaving room" for the idiot behind, the racing line is what he was on (the very reason ants-in-my-pants Alonso was in marble city just off the racing line). Airhead was showboating to try and prove his manhood to MS (or whoever) and had an OH SH** moment. Unfortunately, MS paid for Juanabe's stupidity. Watch any installation lap and you will see the same thing, everyone is trying to get as much heat into the tires as possible. Poor picked on Juanny is able to avoid contact then. What is the dif?

JPM will continue to use whatever tactics he can because he lacks the finese to do it clean. He's an idiot, trying to prove to himself that he is the next Senna - at the expense of anyone who happens to be in front of him.
Jim

 

First off, calm down a little. Multiple hysterical sounding posts aren't going to bolster your position any.

Hypothetically speaking, MS might gain from "bunching up" the field behind him. Not targetting Montoya, but Jarno and the rest behind him. I'm not saying MS did this with this intention, but it is a possibility.

Should Juan have kept a bigger following distance ? Others have said, why not, he's a backmarker after all. Well, here's the thing, JPM may not have anything to gain from letting MS have a comfortable gap, but Jarno and the rest of the people in contention for the lead do have something to lose. And this thought might have been running thru JPM's mind, "why let MS win free and clear ?" So he made sure that by following closely to MS, JT and co. had a shot at closing the gap quickly when the Safety Car had been called off. There's no love lost between JPM and MS, so why shouldn't Montoya follow this strategy ? I don't think Montoya intended to crash into Michael's rear (who could have foreseen that very ill-advised brake check in the middle of a dark tunnel), but I believe he certainly intended to give the cars behind him a fighting chance of reemerging in the lead when MS went in for his final pit.

 

A 5,000,000 to 1 shot.

With at least 1 1/2 laps to go? And as you said it was a "dark tunnel" so why not back off untill "go time"?

JM is a t*t

 

I think JPM has been very lucky to get to where he is. Behind the wheel of a decent F1 car. I can think of many drivers that should replace JPM from Formula 1. Jacques Villeneuve and Anthony Davidson to name a few.