328 GTS/GTB or a Viper GTS.
Although the Viper could run circles around the 328 in every catagory, the 328 is a Ferrari, the Viper is a DODGE. Now what do you want to own?
Depends upon what you really think is important in a car. The 328 is a better Ferrari, but the Viper (Dodge or not) is a better sports car...defined as straight line acceleration, top speed, handling, etc.
Viper = major depreciation Viper styling = clown shoe Viper performance = torque monster, straight line rocket, crappy brakes Viper interior = rather cramped, good AC, cheapo parts bin controls Ferrari = appreciation as long as it's maintained Ferrari styling= classic art Ferrari performance = high revs, made for the curves, good brakes Ferrari interior = leather and high style, weak AC Really- comparing cars from different times era is kinda pointless.
Good summary, but I doubt the appreciation will be significant. Too many cars built. Graph is FML Asking Price Index. Even given the limitations of the API, it is still a useful tool for long term trends and comparos. http://home.earthlink.net/~f365gtc4/images/3X8_API.jpg
This is like comparing apples and bulldogs! Viper is a newer car that you can drive every day and happens to be a rocket. It has some racing pedigree and if you like dodge you should get one. In my opinion the Ferrari is classier, more fragile, less modern and much, much, better looking! If I wanted a modern car somewhere between the two I would get a BMW M3.
I was just wanting to analyze all possible sports cars that I could get in that price range that's all. Like I'v said before performance supremecy over one or the other is not my main concern. I'm more interested in the car that would be more fun to drive for what the car is itself, not just what it runs in the quarter or how many G's it turns on the skidpad.
Drive both and see which is more "your flavor". My subjective story: I sat in a viper a few years ago and everything felt wrong to me. This was rather disappointing too, since I did and still do rather like the look of RT/10s. I just could not feel comfy inside that car. It was a bit better in the Pcar 996 I looked at next. Still just not right. Next the NSX. Something clicked for me. Bought the car a few days later. Same was with my 328. I sat inside and it felt like I belonged there. Everything felt just right. On the 90 mile drive home, I broke into tears of joy. Everything was in the right place, everything moved just right, from the steering to the pedals. Damn I love that car. I looked into a Esprit, same story as the Viper, which is regretable since I love Esprits very much. That said, one seat in a F512M and I felt like I did in the 328. I will have a F512M someday soon. (any leads ) Oh another thing, Vipers even with the best aftermarket exhuast sound like ****. Hear a tubi on a 328 and you will never think of that viper again. In performance, yes the viper kicks that **** out the 328 more ways then one. That said I would still a 328 in my garage...and it has nothing to do with it being a "ferrari" and the other being a meer "dogde". The aura of that car makes me want no other. Now if its brakes were only better...no worries that what a 550's braking system is for...
That's a good point... See that's kind of the thing, I already have one of those supercharged 2003 Cobra's which I'v already added a couple things too making well more horse power than I'd ever really use (over 400rwhp). I do think I would have more fun in the 328 after analyzing the situation. I love the Vipers, but it's like the Esprit I was thinking about too, if I'm just in it for performance alone then whats the point? Yeah I think the 328 is a car I can appritiate more for what it is as a whole, not just what it has under the hood. As usual thanks for your responces. Sorry about all the questions, I just want to knock out all other possible options.
Obviously I need to sit in both first hand. I'v sat in the Viper before, of course at the time I didnt think there was any way in hell I'd ever be able to be behind the wheel of one so I didnt pay much attention to the feel, let alone most of the time they have the Vipers locked or roped off so you cant sit in them in show rooms. Before I actually go to buy one of these cars I will obviously pay attention to detail in that aspect, and of course it may be a few months before I make a move. I will say I'v heard the 308QV and I was simply amazed at how beautiful the car sounded, jaw dropping to say the least, so I could only imagine what the 3.2 liter sounds like.
Doc, where are you located? I could take you for a ride after my car comes back if you would like. I am first to admit that these car is slow though.
Have the best of both worlds, a well prepared 328 with good shocks/springs/wheels/tires and a blower will perform on par with a viper without loosing it's character. Even without any improvements a 328 is a wonderful car to drive, but very different feeling than a viper, you should probably drive both before deciding anything.
I'm in Indianapolis but there no need to drive that far out here, atleast not right at the moment. I'm still more or less in the planning stages and I want to get alittle in savings saved up before I do anything. I do thank you very much for being willing to do that for me. It's your car and you offered to take me for a ride so maybe I'll drive out to your place sometime and do that, only feels fair to me that since your giving me that oppritunity that I take up the travelling end. Also, not that it matters a whole lot but the 328's are still quick cars in my book. It's just that all of these new cars in the passed 5 years are rediculously fast. Based upon performance specs, though, on paper they look as quick a new GTO or Mustang GT, and I'd imagine they handle better than alot of newer, seemingly mild, mild as in like a Z4 or an Audi TT, sports cars.
1. How long do you think they'll depreciate before they begin to appreciate? Hemi Challengers are worth 3 328's. 2. Subjective. Personally I think it's agressive without being too "Hey, look at me!" (ala Lamborghini Diablo) 3. Don't even tell me Vipers can't handle... 4. True, true, true.
My friend has a 98 RT/10 Viper. He drives that car daily with no problems. The annual mileage he puts on that car I would never dream of putting on my Ferrari. Ferraris will always be a breed apart from the rest. Imagine taking your Viper to a gathering of Dodge owners. Now imagine taking your 328 to a gathering of Ferrari owners. Which show will be more enjoyable? Have the greatest variety of interesting models that display the rich history of their maker? Ill join the Ferrari group for their show, if only to take my mind off the fact that my 328 was humiliated on the way there by a Dodge...... These two cars should not be compared..... Alex
Viper...Neon build quality..plastic everywere...fit an finsh are worse then a kit car. Older cars had a bunch of recalls..be sure these are done. A couple are quite dangerous. Ferrari..nuff said.
I'v already made up my mind on the 328 since the last time this thread was posted on, but I will say part of the reason had to do with both cars being in the equal price range. As I said, performance at this point doesnt concern me. I just wanted both cars to be compared in there relative realms. I'm not a firm beleiver in the apples and oranges analogy, atleast not when it comes to cars. One person might like a Porsche 911 for a certain reason and another person might be content with there old beater over the 911. In that aspect I beleive the car's can be compared... I would want to know for what reasons does the Porsche person love the 911, and why does the old beater person like there old beater. What appealing attributes does the old beater bring to the table in comparison to the other guys 911 and vice versa. That to me is how you compare 2 totally different cars. In my case, I'd love to have both, which is why I'm asking the opinions, more than just within the realm of performance, of people who have experience with both cars to help me make the choice that would best suit what I'm looking for.
