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One less Boxer

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by GrigioGuy, Jan 31, 2009.

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  1. GrigioGuy

    GrigioGuy Splenda Daddy
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  2. ag512bbi

    ag512bbi F1 Veteran
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    Ouch. That hurts. I've owned mine now for 24 yearsish. I would be so sad if that's how it ended!
     
  3. CarbBoxer

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    Great read.

    Shame that such a azz wipe owned such a nice car. Well- used to.
     
  4. jratcliff

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    I think the only thing that could have been better was if Karl drove by right after it happened. Then the smile would have been even more effective.

    John
     
  5. Spasso

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  6. thecarreaper

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    parts anyone?

    i hope it works out for karl, he did not deserve th hassle from this guy.
     
  7. Newman

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    Ill take the powertrain for a coffee table. I wonder where the car will go now? Would it go to an auction?
     
  8. geno berns

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    In 30 years this car will be worth enough money that it will be worth rebuilding...I would just store it till than.
     
  9. AHudson

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    That was an incredible read. Thanks for pointing us to it. There is justice in the world, even though a Boxer sacrificed itself for the cause. Obviously, very noble cars.
     
  10. 512bbnevada

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    its a hard hit, amazing everytime these cars crash hard up front how intact the cabin area is, Enzo really made the BBs tough and safe
     
  11. Etcetera

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    Too bad it didn't kill him.
     
  12. CarbBoxer

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    Harsh!
     
  13. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Read the thread. Chances are pretty good that the guy uses the legal system to inflict perpetual grief on those that do not deserve it.
     
  14. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    While that may very well be true, we only have one side of the story...and there is always two sides to every story. If the original poster thought he was wronged, he should file a lawsuit in the proper court...not whine on the internet. In fact, he should have never released the car until he had received full payment either from the insurance company or directly from the owner.
     
  15. boxerman

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    Franklin, while you may undoubtably be correct legaly speaking, much business is conducted on a personal and trust basis.

    Without knowing the other side of the story, it does seem that the reported circumstances surrounding the crash indicate an ego in excess of ability, leading credance to the story. Sad for the Boxer but if true, then poetic justice.
     
  16. Europeanroadandracing

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    Would have, should have. I'll be sure to ask you for advice next time. I am glad I survived working on Ferraris without you for the last 19 yrs. If you read the whole thread you'll know that a court date is scheduled. The only reason I released the car is because the appraisal company who we have worked with on many claims told the ins. co. to pay us directly so I could release the car. Sorry if I offended you with my whining.
     
  17. jratcliff

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    You certainly didn't offend me with your story and I didn't find it whining. I found it interesting and sad at the same time. I own a business and all my sales are on a 30 day net so I am always taking business with a certain amount of trust. I think we litigate way to much in this country. But you truly have a beef and I for one support you. Good luck.

    John
     
  18. CarbBoxer

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    Maybe (most probably) so, but worthy of wishing he was dead?
     
  19. Europeanroadandracing

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    No one should wish that on anyone.
     
  20. parkerfe

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    I understand that that is true when dealing with a repeat customer. But, when dealing with a first time customer, one should never give the keys to the owner until payment is received...that will avoid just the type of problem the original poster found himself in. Sound business practices equally apply to selling widgets as well as wrenching on cars IMHO.
     
  21. Spasso

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    FRANK, FOR THE SECOND TIME, READ THE QUOTE BELOW


    This doesn't sound like reckless judgment to me and holding a customer's car until an insurance check clears could take weeks, not a good way to cultivate return business. Sometimes a thing called "Good Faith" rears it's ugly head in the business world. I personally know of a few successful businessmen that do this thing.
     
  22. Europeanroadandracing

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    No one should wish that on anyone.
     
  23. jratcliff

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    I have a basic dislike of lawyers so I will park my prejudices at the side of the road.

    John
     
  24. Europeanroadandracing

    Europeanroadandracing South Carolina
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    I agree 100%. In 19 years of business this is a first for me. Not a bad track record. The way I look at it, my clients trust me with their pride and joy. I owe them the same courtesy. It has worked until now.
    It wouldn't have been a problem but I found out later from the ins.co. that the guy has a contract with them demanding all checks to go to him. He knew what he was doing.
     
  25. Spasso

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    Karma will win in the end.
     

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