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One more fake Barchetta - the 063s

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  1. dim

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    #1 dim, Jan 22, 2008
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  2. 246tasman

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  3. bigodino

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    The original Stabilimenti Farina body was much more interesting than yet another Touring replica.
     
  4. kare

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    Once again it would be fun to know who built the body, but I guess we'll never know. Who would want such "credit"...?

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  5. Napolis

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    What about the rest of the car? Chassis/engine/gearbox??
     
  6. kare

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    As far as I know, it used to have engine 059/S, which was traded for engine 083/S. It used, however, an unknown 250GT-engine and later it appeared to use an unknown 212-engine. This seems NOT to be 083/S which appeared to be with Italparts (as en "engine only") quite recently. Best wishes, Kare
     
  7. Ferrarinw2

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    mmm?
     
  8. topolino

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    The chassis, engine, gearbox, rear axle , diff., suspension and steering box are original parts. We delivered just all the parts for a complete motor rebuild, from crankshaft bearings to carb. gasket sets, just everything. The car is a good driver and was driven in a hillclimb in the Alpes recently and here in the Eifel mountains.

    Hein
     
  9. GIOTTO

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    And where is the Farina original body today? Destoyed or stored somewhere?
     
  10. kare

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    Reportedly sold in pieces to Donald K. Nelson in late 60's, who planned to install on GT/E-chassis, but later scrapped.
     
  11. Napolis

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    http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/063S.166Inter.htm

    ???
     
  12. topolino

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    barchetta is right, the car came to England some years ago and to Germany 2 years ago.

    Hein
     
  13. Julio Batista

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    I have seen Rafael's cars and they are indeed in prime condition! The GTC in particular is beautiful, if I didn't already have one I would probably have tried to include it in my stable.

    Cheers,

    Julio
     
  14. bigodino

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    Hello Hein,

    Do you know where the replica 166 SC body is now?


    The original Stabilimenti Farina one-off body was indeed owned by Don K. Nelson in England. In a Supercar Classics issue of the late eighties there was a picture of it in his back garden looking in a sad state.
     
  15. topolino

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    I do not know where the replica body is, but I can find it out. Some parts of the original Pininfarina body still exist at one of our customers in England.

    Hein
     
  16. GIOTTO

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    Not PININFARINA, but FARINA... Not the same company. Giovanni FARINA was the brother of Battista "Pinin" FARINA.
     
  17. bigodino

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  18. Tom Roland

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    Interesting. Thanks.
    This "berlinetta" bodywork bodywork has nothing to do with 0063 but comes from the ex Peter Monteverdi's infamous "750 GT", 0486M.
     
  19. Tom Roland

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    Sorry, I was talking of the red bodywork above. The white (...) one underneath could come from 0063.
     
  20. bigodino

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    Sorry for the low quality scan but I couldn't get it any better. The photographers at the time used heavy filters which darkened the tone a lot. It looks a lot like a faded white or grey. The caption says:

    "In garden are Monza modified for De Tomaso and '52 Paris Show car."

    So yes, that car/body in the background is s/n 0063.
     
  21. 246tasman

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    We had that Monza body for a while.
    Don sold/gave it to Robert Wilson, I bought it from him and sold it again in the early 90's.
    It weighed a ton (all steel and gullwing doors)!
     
  22. T308

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    0025/S currently installed.
     
  23. Michiel Mobiel

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  24. Motob

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    Wow, that is too cool. Someone should reunite the original body with the chassis and restore it.

    Brian B.
     
  25. dretceterini

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    The problem is that once one of these beautiful early cars has been turned from a street car into a race car, it's very hard and very expensive to bring them back. The same kind of thing has happened with a lot of pre-war Alfas.
     

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