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One more fake Barchetta - the 063s

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by dim, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. Christian.Fr

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    body by Vignale, beautifull...
     
  2. GIOTTO

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    No Christian, it's a Stabilimenti Farina body...
     
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  3. Christian.Fr

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    really! I thought has Vignale for the front face...thanks Francis for rectification.

    pictures from the rear of this car????
     
  4. don

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    The body was offered to me in exchange for a good lunch. The windshield was the same as my Vignale 0197EL, so it was a good spare. The Stabilimente Farina chromed side flashes and portholes are on my bookcase. The body was then cut into pieces and scrapped, as it was too far gone to consider restoring. My original thought was to mount it on one of the many 250GTE chassis that I had.
     
  5. GIOTTO

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    It would have been more interesting to recreate the original Farina design than a copy of a Touring barchetta.
     
  6. f308jack

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    I like barchetta's as much as the next guy, but the original Farina was an interesting and good looking body. What a shame that it is gone.
     
  7. Tom Roland

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    The history of this Stab. Farina cabrio reads as a continuous disappointment : not sold at the 1950 Paris show, painfully sold by Toulo de Graffenried after the Geneva show, body scrapped in Switzerland not long afterwards.
    Regrets ?
     
  8. BigTex

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    Stylistically, it has "a lot going on"...only in today's view are these unique details a relief to a 'more common" treatment....

    Thanks for joining in on this thread, the old photos are interesting, indeed!
     
  9. BigTex

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    I agree, an aluminum recreation would have been a runner!
     
  10. VIZSLA

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    Front bumper attachments are wonderful.
    If not exactly pretty.
     
  11. Aardy

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  12. The Red Baron

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    Seem to remember this or similar bodied car going around many dealers. If it is the same car it has been for sale for more than 6 years now.
     
  13. rob lay

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    recreated body not to original, going into recreations.
     
  14. tritone

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    Too bad about the recreation body on this chassis; I think the original was a sensational design. Of course, I lean toward the unusual rather than the ones 'everybody' likes.....

    One of the 'big dogs' needs to man up and recreate the original body on this chassis...bet they could even charm the chrome pieces away from Mr. Nelson.
     
  15. thecheddar

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    To me, one of the single most beautiful machines in the early three-digit serials. Some of the early cars weren't exactly lookers but this car's original metal was drop-dead gorgeous.

    Yes, it's certainly a shame the original body was lost but it's also a success story in that the car was saved and lives on as a "bitsa." Regardless of current form or "label" as a recreation, its history of having worn many sheetmetal "hats" holds some charm. Perhaps one day its value will allow it to wear the recreation of its original shape? If only so it can move into a less stigmatized part of this forum?! I hope so.
     
  16. omd78

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  17. bitzman

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    OK granted it was a hard luck car, retrieved out of a junkyard no less
    but now that early Ferrari prices have risen so dramatically, isn't there a chance someone will rebody it in its original style?
    Too bad Donald Nelson threw the original Farina body away, but isn't there a sister car existing today that could be CNC -canned? (and what would such a body cost if made by these modern methods)--I know this method was used with the Richard Teague burned out Ferrari 350 cabriolet sold by Shaughnessy.
    Also 063S lost its engine along the way, that engine
    installed in 059S and then
    later on Christopher Stewart, UK installed a 212 engine. Seems to me that, with the original engine, it would be worth 40% more--or is it the problem then what does the owner of 059S do for an engine?.
    Did the UK magazine say what Donald Nelson sold the chassis for?
     
  18. bitzman

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  19. tongascrew

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    According to what have Bob de la Rive Box discovered the car in 1968 in the scrapyard of Rudolf Benn in Besenbueren in Switzerland[?]. The engine was missing. tongascrew
     
  20. kare

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    Uuh, that front view makes it look even uglier than any other photos I've seen - and it doesn't look very pretty in those either!
     
  21. F40org

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  22. Marcel Massini

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  23. TTR

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    Interesting how so many obvious, yet relatively easy & simple things to do correctly during a full “restoration” are off.
    Not to mention rather distracting location of “the plaque”, but perhaps it garnered serious discounts and is now contractually required to be left in that spot for some specified time line.
     

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