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  1. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2005
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    That's for real.
     
  2. plasticpi

    plasticpi Rookie

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  3. Skyraider

    Skyraider Formula Junior

    Nov 4, 2005
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    Well, all I can say is..... good show, Plasticpi !
    You win my appreciation for stick to it'iveness :)


    That sure enough looks like the original. I did a search for accidents, incidents, and crashes fort the A319-111, on Airliners.net,
    and came up a day late, and a dollar short.

    But, I still maintain the distortion, can come from compression alone..
    I had it happen to my pics, many times. It was not really noticable,
    till one zooms in at 400%

    Skyraider
     
  4. plasticpi

    plasticpi Rookie

    Nov 19, 2005
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    I did notice that the same distortion I saw was occuring in the trees, grass, etc. so that certainly could have been from the compression. I did the same search under accidents and incidents and came up blank, so at that point I was 99% sure it was chopped, so I tediously went through all of the air france a319 pictures. This was like number 700 something out of almost 1,000.
    Why yes... I do have too much time on my hands...

    The other thing that really tipped me off is in the lower left hand corner of the picture... it says wtf-67 instead of "copyright by _____" like all the other airliners.net pics do.
     
  5. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2005
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    See ! I was right all along. There should have been flaming fuel coming out of that " broken" wing if it really was scapping the ground. Fooled me for a little bit but I also noticed the compression on the perifery of the down loaded load on the transferred file of the scanned canned image from the base sending mode.
     
  6. Skyraider

    Skyraider Formula Junior

    Nov 4, 2005
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    Looking closer yet, I notice :

    * there is a missing chain link fence in the chopped pic, just above the brown grass,
    far side of taxiway, across the entire photo

    * and in both pics, pilots have checklist /pad(?) same place, in front window

    * and just ahead of the rear exit, the letters, "F-GRH

    * the green bush near side center edge of rwy and finally,

    * the same smudge (smoke?) above right wing leading edge,
    at the intersection of the nose of the right side (2nd flap) track fairing.

    all difficult to pick up on, without the orig.... :) :) :)

    Skyraider
     
  7. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2005
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    Fun Stuff !
     
  8. sparky p-51

    sparky p-51 Formula 3

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  9. Skyraider

    Skyraider Formula Junior

    Nov 4, 2005
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    Things that make you go.....Hmmmmmmmm....

    Is that a suba-marine spitfire, or a run-O-the mill "Sea" plane?? :)
     
  10. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2005
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    I can see tons of money down the drain with this one.
     
  11. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

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  12. sparky p-51

    sparky p-51 Formula 3

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    Yea, all that work and all that money and the DUNKEYS gave it a DUNKIN. Perhaps I'm being to harsh not knowing exactly wha hoppen. Understand its going again. At least whomever was flying it didnt hurt anyone. Had to be a pretty good stick to pull that one off.
     
  13. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2005
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    Sparky, that flight was a " training flight" initiated by the pilots assigned to fly the 307. They paid for the fuel out of their pockets and limited the fuel load. After shooting touch and goes at Paine Field they headed back to Boeing Field and had a little problem with the landing gear on final and diverted to the west to work the problem. With the gear finally down and on final to Boeing Field they experienced "air in the fuel lines" and lost one engine after another and had to ditch in Puget Sound near a restaurant on the shore. The airplane was fixed up again and flown to the Udvar-Hazey wing of the Smithsonian where it resides. Really a hard statement on fuel management and proper planning.
     
  14. sparky p-51

    sparky p-51 Formula 3

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    #39 sparky p-51, Dec 8, 2005
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    Thanks Bob. My son was on a lay over and saw that Boeing at the Udder-Holsteen thingamabop place. Was very inpressed with the exibit. Check out the Sukoy aerobatic mid wing machine under the Dash 80. Tex would be prowd. Ua know, two aerobatic airplanes in close proxmity on the floor. The dunked airplane is off the left wingtip of the 7-O. Oh God, theres a Hellcat. I gotta go.
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  15. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

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    Very nice picher. The -80 looks nice and clean but it would be nicer if it could be restored back to its original configuration with the wing that it started with and the original nacelles. The flaps that are on it now are titanium and weigh so much that 2200 pounds of lead ballast had to be put in the nose to balance things. The flaps were used to test a 90 deg blown system for the YC-14 and they never took them off.
    Forget that Hellcat, it don't fly no more.
     
  16. sparky p-51

    sparky p-51 Formula 3

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    #41 sparky p-51, Dec 9, 2005
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    For sure not in its stock form. The biggest eye sore are the engines. But what the heck, at least its still around. Didnt get sent to the furnace.
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  17. sparky p-51

    sparky p-51 Formula 3

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    Way to go Switches. You just passed me on the POST WHORE status board. You shameless hussey. Be after the kid next.
     
  18. sparky p-51

    sparky p-51 Formula 3

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  19. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

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    Sparky, I just noticed that the site of the 307 Dunking is in the famous upsidedown picher that you post. If you scan a line down and to the right beginning at the leading edge of the nacelle intake at an angle of approx. 30 degrees, you will intersect a point of land that juts out into Elliot Bay. That is where Salty's restaurant is located and right where they put the airplane down.....about 50 yards off shore from it. You're right, they did a helluva job putting it in close and in shallow water.
     
  20. Spasso

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  21. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

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    Snow on the assigned runway, quartering tailwind on the assigned approach , 3/4 mile visibility, 6500 foot runway, and night time. Obviously they will find that it was pilot error. Glad that I don't kmow how to fly anymore.
     
  22. Spasso

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    Sounds to me like it was stacked against him.
     
  23. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

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    I feel the same way. A horrible condition to make a landing in.
     
  24. sparky p-51

    sparky p-51 Formula 3

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    It would seem that the PIC would have had the option to divert, but in just about every accident like this, the 'gotta get there-ittus' gets them in over their heads. Go somewhere else where conditions are better. I have known several pilots that have gone away because they had to go. Sad about the child fatality, but it could have been far worse.
     
  25. SWITCHESOFF

    SWITCHESOFF Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2005
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    Yeah, he could have diverted but how could he have known the condition of the runway and everything else. Everybody said, " Yeah, man come on in, you can use 31C, no problem." Where would he have gone ? O'Hare was just as bad and crowded I imagine. I went in to Midway in the 60's in December and it looked SMALL then. I was in a Viscount and I was glad to get off the damn thing. It was snowing and dark and not unlike last night. Midway is past it's time.
     

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