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Discussion in 'F1' started by cantsleepnk, Sep 10, 2007.

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  1. Senna3xWC

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    #26 Senna3xWC, Sep 11, 2007
    That's typical. Avoid the uncomfortable truth and divert attention. You did that with my Ferrari ownership and now you are doing it with the fraudulant Italian report. I am sure being caught relying on a fake news story is just as embarrassing as your slanderous comments were when I posted my 355 pictures.

    Thursday's findings won't change a thing in your mind. If McLaren is exonerated, you will still be whining.
     
  2. 355

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    #27 355, Sep 11, 2007
    check your pm
     
  3. GrndLkNatv

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    #28 GrndLkNatv, Sep 11, 2007
    The FIA has very good evidence this time, enough to call Mercedes back, which means they aren't joking.. If they were going to exonerate mercedes why would they call them at all??? Makes no sense....
     
  4. cantsleepnk

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    #29 cantsleepnk, Sep 11, 2007
    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62274

    By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, September 11th 2007, 13:54 GMT

    The FIA has confirmed that it has been approached by McLaren with questions about rivals Renault, just days before the World Motor Sport Council hearing into Formula One's spy saga.

    There has been mounting speculation since the Italian Grand Prix that part of McLaren's defence arguments in Thursday's hearing will revolve around the fact that if they are punished then rival teams like Renault should be as well.

    Sources have also suggested to autosport.com that other teams may also have been mentioned as well as Renault, although this has not been confirmed.

    The exact nature of McLaren's query about Renault is not known, but there are rumours it is focused around a technical element on the car rather than any specific involvement in the spy controversy.

    The FIA has now confirmed that McLaren's lawyers have indeed been in touch with them to discuss the Renault matter, but the sport's governing body has made it clear that it will have no relevance to the Paris hearing.

    An FIA spokesman told autosport.com: "We have noted the speculation and we can confirm that McLaren lawyers have recently brought to our attention certain matters regarding Renault F1.

    "But we can also confirm that the team (Renault) does not form any part of our investigations into McLaren's alleged breach of Article 151C of the International Sporting Code.

    "The FIA has reminded McLaren that the World Council hearing in Paris on Thursday will focus solely on the new evidence in that investigation.

    "To the extent required, any other matters will be dealt with as part of an entirely separate process. Renault F1 are aware of this and are happy to cooperate fully."

    Renault boss Flavio Briatore was quoted in the Italian media today as saying that he was confident they would not get dragged into the spy case on the back of the speculation about McLaren's complaints.

    "We told the FIA what we had, so there's no problem," he told Gazzetta dello Sport. "I don't know what Dennis refers to, he's throwing stones a bit everywhere. We are calm, no problem at all."

    The FIA hearing in Paris will hear new evidence in the McLaren case, believed to revolve around an email exchange between Fernando Alonso and Pedro de la Rosa, with rivals Ferrari also expected to present their own submissions about the matter.

    McLaren have been advised on legal grounds not to comment about the case before the hearing."

    Looks like the FIA won't let Mclaren drag other teams into this.
     
  5. jssans

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    #30 jssans, Sep 11, 2007
    Lets just presume that there is irrefutable evidence of misconduct against McLaren on Thursday. There is no way in hell the FIA would damage their own sport by taking any action against McLaren. I don't care if there is a video of a cash bribe to Massa & Kimi to lose races! They are not going to squander the opportunity to promote the potential messiah(Hamilton) & one of the best seasons F1 has had in years. FIA can do whatever they want & everybody knows what they want. A financial juggernaut of a sport. Besides Ferrari isn't going anywhere if the outcome isn't in their favor.
     
  6. Senna3xWC

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    #31 Senna3xWC, Sep 11, 2007
    Did you PM me? I don't have anything in my mailbox.
     
  7. GrndLkNatv

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    #32 GrndLkNatv, Sep 11, 2007
    "Lets just presume that there is irrefutable evidence of misconduct against McLaren on Thursday. There is no way in hell the FIA would damage their own sport by taking any action against McLaren. I don't care if there is a video of a cash bribe to Massa & Kimi to lose races! They are not going to squander the opportunity to promote the potential messiah(Hamilton) & one of the best seasons F1 has had in years. FIA can do whatever they want & everybody knows what they want. A financial juggernaut of a sport. Besides Ferrari isn't going anywhere if the outcome isn't in their favor."

    So what happens if they let McLaren slide and Ferrari sues the FIA? Which they will.... Then they ask BMW, Spyker and the rest of the boys to go class action against them for not enforcing their own rules which is breach of contract. You see, the FIA has to act or else they will be destroyed..
     
  8. senna21

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    #33 senna21, Sep 11, 2007
    Who knows what they've got. We'll find out on Thursday what they have and if it's really anything damming. Mercedes seems fairly confident. http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070911150939.shtml
     
  9. ferraridude615

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    #34 ferraridude615, Sep 11, 2007
    The first time they held this Round Table/Council Thingy, they didn't deal out any punishment. Why would they waste our time again, and call another trial to not hand out a punishment, if they had evidence to reconvene.
     
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