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Pagani Sets New Record for Nurburgring

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  1. Mbutner

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    Not by a huge margin but still impressive:

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/228650/

    A Pagani Zonda F has set a new lap record for the Nurburgring Nordschleife.

    A Zonda F Clubsport covered the 12.8 miles and 73 corners of the Green Hell in 7:27:82.

    That beats the previous production car lap record, held by a Porsche Carrera GT, by just two tenths of a second.

    As you’d expect, the Zonda F Clubsport is a bit of a beast. Nestling within its carbonfibre chassis and bodywork is a 7.3-litre AMG Mercedes V12 producing 641bhp, and yet it weighs just 1230kg. No wonder Pagani claims a 0-62mph time of 3.6sec and a top speed of almost 215mph.

    The Italian firm also says that it can pull 1.4g in a corner and decelerate from 125mph to a standstill in 4.4sec. Useful, that, when you’re at the Nordschleife.

    The only piece of information we haven't bean able to glean from Pagani is who was at the wheel. All we do know is that they are a bit handy.

    Of course, there is the argument of what exactly constitutes a production car, because back in 2003, Autocar made it rather quicker in a production Radical SR3 turbo.

    With ex-BTCC racer Phil Bennett at the wheel, we lapped in 7:19.7, a whole nine seconds quicker than the Pagani. And British firm Radical has since managed to send one of its cars round in under seven minutes.

    Of course, there is a new Zonda R on the way, which has an extra 50bhp over the F Clubsport, so it's just possible that Pagani might beat its own record.
     
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  4. DriveAfterDark

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    Long live Pagani.
     
  5. kwiker

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    ^^^^^+1 I have been a long time fan and I'm glad to see them set a record like this.
     
  6. Mbutner

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    Beautiful pic.
     
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  8. wbaeumer

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    I took now over the last 20 years 250+ laps on this most amazing circuit on this planet. I believe this is completly b******t as long as anyone shows me the proof!!!!

    So, does it mean that if you "drive" something with 500 kg with 500 hp you might fetch 3 minutes.....(- and then you are DEAD!!)??

    Ciao!
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  9. PDX Tifosi

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    6:55 to be exact.

    http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/news_folder/nord0905/index.php

    By way of comparison, Clay Regazoni posted the fastest ever Formula One race lap in the 1975 Grand Prix at 7 minutes 5 seconds, a £323,000 Porsche Carrera GT has lapped in 7 minutes 32 seconds and a Caterham R500 in 7 minutes 56 seconds.

    Circuit stats
    Length: 20.8km
    Corners: 33 left-handers, 40 right-handers
    Steepest climb: 17%
    Steepest drop: 11%
    Highest point: 620m above sea level (start/finish straight)
    Lowest point: 320m asl (Breidscheid)

    Race lap records over the years
    1927 Christian Werner - 15:51.6
    1932 Tazio Nuvolari - 10:49.4
    1936 Bernd Rosemeyer - 9:56.6
    1958 Stirling Moss - 9:09.2
    1969 Jacky Ickx - 7:43.8
    1975 Clay Regazzoni - 7:06.4
    1983 Stefan Bellof - 6:11.1
     
  10. wbaeumer

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    Congrats to him - but his car is a race car! And even that "modern" car did not beat the epic drive of Stefan Bellof. With a pure GT-car we are coming now at the end of tow whats possible on that circuit.

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  11. fastback33

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    Don't ever think that a faster time can not be managed.
     
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  13. Swil

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    Imagine the CGT, Zonda F, Enzo and Veyron together in a race around the ring, 3 laps, all four side by side in a rolling start, multi-million dollar purse, the top 4 drivers in the world voted by a worldwide panel of "experts" and enthusiasts. Oh wouldn't that be a wondrous thing to see. Pay-per view anyone?? How many of you would fly out to see that?

    (Veyron would probably get smoked until the long straight, then it'd walk down the others and get close, what a finish to watch that'd be). Hell, maybe throw in a McClaren F1 while were at it (street version, of course).
     
  14. Garrett M

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    There are a few other cars I'd drive before those on the Ring.

    As for the Zonda- bravo.
     
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    Mmmmmmmmmmmm
     
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    Seen that "Redline" movie recently? :D

    It could be the sequel if Daniel Sadek had any money left... Redline 2: Deutschland
     
  17. wbaeumer

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    So, and when do you think we are coming under 5 minutes??? Perhaps with a F16 - but it will have problems on those twisty, blind corners!

    Ciao!
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    LOL!
     
  19. fastback33

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    I never siad that getting under 6 seconds is easy to do. However as technology progresses you can only expect that time to get lower. Maybe by fractions of a second but noetheless it can be beaten.

    I'll tell you what. Go take your philosophy over to http://www.ekartingnews.com/ forum and tell them what you just said here. I can garauntee you will get a similar answer.
     
  20. Swil

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    heheh, yeah I saw it, was a great movie till they started speaking. A Deutschland sequel would be interesting.
     
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  22. nthfinity

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    There have been questions as to what constitutes a full lap on NS... 26,600 meters, or 26,823 meters. This lap was timed at 26,600; and would need an additional 3-4 seconds to make those last 223 meters.

    It's become quite popular now to use the 26,600 meter as standard, where as only a few years ago, the standard was 26,823 meters... so there is quite the perceived notion that cars are going "that" much faster then they were just a few years ago.

    The lap is incredibly fast, no doubt.... but to compare what the underpowered CGT did (compared to the Zonda F CS) with non-ideal dry tires, (but good wet tires)... and did 4 years ago already... such is technology. the F ought to be faster, its newer, and more powerful... and can get that power down to the road with greater success.

    What is crazy to think is that a 997 GT2 can lap NS in 7:32 (apparently 26,823 meters) ... with only 500 ish HP :p
     
  23. Chaos

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    surely the only proper way to do it is on a closed circuit and time from the same point to the same point.

    wasnt Bellof's a flying lap btw ?
     
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    I don't know about you but Pagani is still king from that statement alone, of the production car times.
     
  26. nthfinity

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    It's said that Walter Rohl ran the NS in the CGT @ 7:25 anyway ;)
     
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  28. f360driver

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    Amazing time, indeed. But, did anyone else notice that the Zonda lapped the ring with what appears to be "traction control" of some sort. There was a light on the instrument cluster that was blinking furiously through the corners. Does anyone know if there is some type of standard for lap records? I'd assume slick tyres are out of the question, but I wonder if stability management and traction control are fair game?
     

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