Doc, Want some opinion/advice on the bar biz. Been told by some to not do it yet others I know make a killing if popular. I have no idea how to estimate costs to open a place. I have seen some spend a million and shut down in 2 months and others have simply hung a new sign and they are the new hot spot for the next year. Any trick? Any way to estimate costs? I know it depends.....I am looking at an old restaurant so buildout woudn't be terrible. Some walls, furniture and new bar area and sound system, some paint etc. Point is the space isn't bare. Any ideas on time to break even? Again depends on customers. HOw many staff to estimate? What to pay them? Any input is appreciated. oh, place is 6000 sqft which is sort of big, but not huge. Any averages to compare to? People needed per sq ft and employees per customer etc. I just have no way to estimate other than start throwing money at it and see if it works. If not..give it 3 months then bail and kiss my cash goodbye!