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Discussion in '612/599' started by outofmoney, Sep 3, 2015.

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  1. outofmoney

    outofmoney Rookie

    Jan 11, 2007
    20
    hello everyone.
    I have reviewed posts and understand that bubbling on the doors on the 612's are not an uncommon problem. I am currently looking at a 06 that has some bubbling on the drivers door near the glass/rubber. The dealer is willing to repair to my approval. My question is does this diminish the value of the car having this issue? What about after repair? Also is there a chance it could still happen to the other door or would it have happened by now. appreciate help.
     
  2. FerrariFL

    FerrariFL Formula Junior

    Dec 2, 2012
    526
    It depends on the color... Some easier to match and blend than others. Metallic silver and greys are difficult.
     
  3. shmluisfc

    shmluisfc Karting

    May 31, 2012
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    It will dimish the value of the car if the corrosion is there and present. If you repair and paint it, it will dimish the value, less. :/ Tough spot. I went ahead and had both doors on my 612 repaired because the corrosion looked bad.
     
  4. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It is corrosion. Mine had it 2 months after pick up from the factory. They repaired it under warranty, and it has never come back, nor has the other door had any issue.

    I think if they'll repair it properly (and it won't be cheap), then I would go ahead with the car. Given the likely cost of the repair, I'd probably pass on the car unless either they'll repair it, or you really want that specific car.

    Speculation at the time was that it was a manufacturing defect. This car probably has had it for years as well.
     
  5. Melanzane

    Melanzane Karting

    Sep 12, 2012
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    Florida
    A skilled paint/body guy can repair, no problem. But unless it is treated, it will start to come back in a couple of years. There is some treatment they can apply to retard the corrosion, but I do not have specifics. If the corrosion is limited in area to the top of th door sill, then they likely won't even need to re spray the entire door. I'd put it at well under $1000 for a single door.
     
  6. belfry

    belfry Formula Junior

    May 14, 2015
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    I had this issue on my drivers door. $600 to correct.
     
  7. outofmoney

    outofmoney Rookie

    Jan 11, 2007
    20
    appreciate the reply's. seems that as long as it is repaired than I will press on with the purchase. I have had a lot of pressure to get a 575 instead due to resale etc..but I love the classy lines of the 612.
    cheers.
     
  8. FerrariFL

    FerrariFL Formula Junior

    Dec 2, 2012
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    What color is it?
     
  9. outofmoney

    outofmoney Rookie

    Jan 11, 2007
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    Argento Nurburgring Silver
     
  10. ghardt

    ghardt Formula 3

    Apr 18, 2004
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    If you have it done at one of the 6 or 7 authorized Ferrari paint and body dealers it won't hurt the value, IMO. What ever you do, it needs to be documented with good detailed photos before, during, and after.
     
  11. D-F

    D-F Rookie

    Sep 5, 2015
    35
    Beware of long term color change. I once had to repaint the rear of a car and the shop informed me that my car had expensive paint and charged a lot extra to use that quality and promised to repaint again for free if color didn't match. It did match but in less than a year the colors were noticeable different. I would look for another car if I were you.
     
  12. MoeD

    MoeD Formula 3

    Aug 1, 2007
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    I did a thread on this exact fix on my last 612, before I swapped out for my current OTO car. I did post photos of the repair though.

    You can't just repair and repaint. The door has to come off, interior panel removed, and the bad metal cutout and replaced, along with some other precautionary work.

    My work was done by Classic Coach in Elizabeth NJ- The oldest authorized Ferrari repair/restoration facility in the country (there are only a handful). They restore cars worth 10's of millions as well as repair any car Ferrari of North America isn't happy with when it comes new off the boat. Any service, mechanical, body/paint or leather work is all in house.

    They KNOW factory techniques because it's all they do or have ever done, and use only what the factory uses- So in the end, one could never detect the repair on my car and it was done to perfection.

    That is the fix I'd recommend to anyone serious about their car for the long term.

    Of course a simple repair and repaint can be done by a more ordinary shop- the question is how long you plan to own your car and what it's worth to fix it properly.

    Ferrari knows there's a problem with these doors, but unless you make a claim within the corrosion warranty period, they won't help.

    Problem is, the issue often raises itself after that period, as was my case, and they refused to assist.
     
  13. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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    This is how mine was done as well, under warranty.

     
  14. D-F

    D-F Rookie

    Sep 5, 2015
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    In other and not so many words, he should look for another car.
     
  15. technom3

    technom3 F1 World Champ
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    the body shop should take the door panel out and look at the back side of the metal to inspect all of the damage. Then if salvagable, (more than likely) they treat the backside and sand the front side down to bare metal, then treat the metal and refinish. Cutting the metal out of the doors would be a fairly extreme step, but necessary in some situations.
     
  16. Zedtt

    Zedtt Formula Junior

    May 29, 2005
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    Assuming that the door (skin) is aluminum and if so, the corrosion is likely to be caused by galvanic reaction between dissimilar metals. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion)

    Perhaps there is a steel brace or some other metal strip immediately adjacent to the aluminum door skin. Corrosion could return if not properly dealt with.
     

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