Painter and Interior Resto On East Coast

Figure 25K for paint. This is only the starting point. Actual cost will be around 40k. Interior 10 to 15K. I know someone who just finished a 275gtb in the east coast and that is what it cost. Other things to consider while the car has been taken apart are new rubber seals for windows, chrome, polishing and detailing of all the plastic lenses, gaps, the list is endless. I have not used this person but I have heard good things about Wayne @f40 motorsports in the east coast. Most important is to do it right and go to a vintage ferrari specialist. I am sure many shops can do a perfect paint job, but its things like knowing how to make the trim around the door fit properly and still have the door close that only a vintage ferrari shop will know how to do. Best of luck.

 

I have a nagging feeling that your excitement mught yet be tempered when you see the costs detailed.

Paint is no big deal but what will you find when you strip ? Probably more work than you bargained for. Will you make good over bad. That would be a mistake.

Interior in the UK would cost you £10,000 -£15,000. So whats that $25,000. Could easily be a lot more for all I know in the US.

Given that most on here know what the market price is for a Daytona (imho false and inflated market that it is) if you outlined what you are paying for the car it will make the maths easier.

Purchase price + respray + retrim > Buying a sound car = Pass.

Purchase price + respray + retrim < Buying a sound car = Do It !

A great saying round these parts is buy well buy once. There are LOTS of sound Daytona's out there (albeit asking silly money).

Good luck with your project - exciting it will certainly be.

Cheers

Darren

 

mdsaxon,

I would recommend Francois Sicard for the work, he will manage the process and set the car up mechanically as well (I'm very impressed with him) - he maintains my 330. I would also recommend joining Tom Yang's website www.tomyang.net it will give you a lot of insight.

You mentioned that the car has already had bodywork, does this mean it has been stripped and properly fixed or is it a bondo patch job? If the prep wasn't done correctly, don't spend money on an expensive paint job.

The cost of the project depends on what your goals for the car are. A nice driver is a lot cheaper than a restoration to new condition or 100 point restoration but you will get what you pay for. My main suggestion is to go with someone who has a lot of experience with vintage Ferraris and have a clear vision for what you want from the restoration.

Regards,

Art S.

PS. make sure you get a Pre-Purchase Inspection (PPI) by someone that knows vintage Ferraris - you don't want surprises! - an engine rebuild is around $25K, the tranny is $5+K, when you are looking at this project, use a small airplane as a project cost comparison point rather than a Corvette.

 

Having been to Sicard's shop I too can vouch for the quality and thoroughness of his work. Immaculate comes to mind.

As Art suggested, you need to do your homework well before taking on a vintage Ferrari "fixer-upper' as you could find yourself completely upside down financially very quickly if you haven't done due diligence.

Mel Blaney

 

Bo Pirkle here in Atlanta has painted many Daytonas among many vintage Ferraris. He knows the cars upside down and backwards.... which is a BIG issue. Don't pay for someone elses learning curve!

Bo painted my Daytona 20 years ago and as anyone who has seen it knows, the paint is VERY good. Bo only does top quality work. He is not cheap.... he is painfully slow.... but when its done you will know its RIGHT. Figure a complete respray on a Daytona at $25K plus any new rubber, body or trim parts.

Unless close inspection (this means removal of ALL trim pieces and interior pieces and visually inspecting behind all exterior body panels with a bore scope....), disassembly or body prep discovers significant rust, you do not want to chemically strip a Daytona. These cars do not rust from the outside in.... they rust from the inside out. The body panels were also hand formed and then covered with liberal amounts of filler by the factory. This filler is very durable and there is a lot of it! Stripping the car to bare metal by removing all of this factory applied filler will create LOTS of additional work which is unnecessary and will expose good metal introducing all new opportunities for the seed of future rust to take root.

It may seem faster to chemically strip the car and then spray on lots and lots of high build filler..... but your better off sanding all the paint and primer from the car down to the factory filler and then working from there. It takes a great deal of time with this approach, but oh well.

As to the interior... Any good local automotive trim specialist will have no problem tackling the job. The Daytona interior isnt all that complicated. BUT: you are going to want to get all the materials and parts yourself and provide them. I would strongly suggest that rather than ordering just new seat covers, you order entire new seats. Re-Originals gets entire new seats made by the same guys who built the originals. They are perfect. Your far better off doing this than trying to have the old originals totally rebuilt. You can also get new door panels ready to install, mousehair for the dash and matching leather for the center console plus materials for the rest of the interior panels. By the time your all done... parts + labor and all, rubber pieces too.... your going to be out $25K.

Dont forget chrome plating work.... powder coating stuff in the engine bay.... detailing underneith.... suspension plating and rebuild.....


Its all fun!





Terry

 

If a Daytona at $250K for a nice car is silly.... whats a 275GTB/4 at $950K? How about an Aston DB5 at $250K? What about an S1 E-Type roadster at $125K? I dont even need to ask about the Hemi 'Cuda at $1.2 million....

Perhaps there is plenty of silliness going around these days!




Terry

 

Wayne Carini at F40 Motorsports paints all of Francois Sicard's cars. Wayne is located just outside of Hartford and has painted two cars for me including a 250 GTO. He is not cheap.
Johann's Interiors in Danbury, CT does some of the best work in the area. He used to do all the factory Aston Martin work on the East Coast and did all of the Callaway Speedsters. He now rents space in Duncan Dayton's beautiful new facility.

 

pay a visit to Classic Coach in Elizabeth, NJ before you choose where you will have the work performed.

 

Terry fair point !

275GTB/4 at $950k are upgraded from "silly" to "ridiculous" on the Jaffrey scale (car equivalent to Richter). The only category above "ridiculous" is "offensive" which is where prices for most american muscle cars currently sit.

Aston DB5 is exempt from any negaitive classification because its British ...as am I

Darren.

 

Gary Maucher Automotive Interiors, Newtown, PA
Maucher Custom Upholstery 360 South Lincoln Avenue, Newtown, PA 18940 (215) 860-0910

 

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On the East Coast, Greg Jones and Bruce Amster are both capable of excellent work.

FYI, Re-Originals' Daytona seats are not exactly like the original ones. I own five Daytonas, three with original seats. I've also purchased two sets of seats from Matt at Re-Originals. They were not correct and I sent Matt pictures of mine to explain the differences. Re-Originals' seats use the same leather and vinyl that Ferrari Classiche is now using, which is not the same as the original Connolly leather. Matt knows this and advertises his seats as using what Ferrari is currently using. The leather is different, the vinyl inserts are different, the underside is different and the leather is vat, not surface dyed (will last much longer than the original of course). Nice seats to be sure, but they are not like the original (for better or worse).

The best I've seen to date are seats done by Stuz Upholestry and Mike Regalia. Unfortunately, both are located in California and are very expensive.

There are excellent people throughout the United States. It's hard to go wrong with many of the people that have been recommended to you. Just make sure they know, that you know what you are looking at. Even the best make mistakes and just might try and hide it if they think they can get away with it. Gee, that never happens, right?

Steve