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  1. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Latest news from Cavallino. An F40 owner in conversation with one of his judges "Hey, I don't know anything about these". He's not a happy camper.

    All that money to find out his judges admit to not knowing the cars. Great show.

    Good thing Canossa fired one of the best supercar judges there was and lost another because of it.
     
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  2. TTR

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    I imagine "fired judges" might be now counting their blessings.
    Who would want to be associated with this type of nonsense ?
     
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  3. Nospinzone

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    I can imagine how that F40 owner must have felt. When I first got my 612 I entered it at a local car event. The two judges had absolutely no clue of what they were looking at. They took all of 3 or 4 minutes. It was a complete joke.

    I have entered my 612 twice at the FCA Annual Experience, Daytona and Scottsdale. A team of 3 judges poured over my car. I could tell that they were well versed with the model by what they looked at, their discussions and their questions for me. After being awarded a Platino in both cases, I went on to be awarded the Coppa Bella Machina. Both judges I had there were experienced independent Ferrari technicians. Their thoroughness was nervewracking as a participant, but they knew their stuff.
     
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  4. Rifledriver

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    #904 Rifledriver, Feb 14, 2024
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    One will no longer judge because this was enough politics for him. He decided he had better things to do. More are no longer attending. Most would plan their year around Cavallino. Now it seems some have other things they must do. A lot of stories coming out about inexperienced judges but most I cannot tell. There were so many new ones and they were full judges, not observers training. In important classes too. One class I dread getting assigned to because it is so difficult had 2 or 3 judges totally unversed (is that a word?) in the model. Much of it is not a big surprise. There s a huge degree of simply not caring about post Enzo cars and it shows more every day. One of the big reasons I left the IAC/PFA board. Tired of being the token modern car guy.
     
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  5. Rifledriver

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    Leslie has higher standards and since her first day has been recruiting good people.
     
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  6. ggjjr

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    Brian,
    I am not sure you were the "token modern car guy", but that almost nobody else knows as much about the modern cars as yourself, and they knew it, and valued it.

    George
     
  7. Rifledriver

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    I can assure you. They did not value it. It is a group of Enzo era guys who care nothing of Ferrari post 1974.

    They are in the middle of discussion right now over the correct headlights for 275 and none of them are even aware of DOT requirements for DOT compliant lights for all cars on US roads since 1940. None of the lights they insist are correct are DOT compliant.
     
  8. ggjjr

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    Well, some of us did. ; )
     
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  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    They have a full blown 2 tier judging program going on and I was tired of being the guy the board pointed to when they said they cared about post Enzo era cars. It was a lie. They knew it, I knew it.
     
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  10. rob lay

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    nice video

     
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    I also hope to go again this year. Waiting for them to fill out more of the info on the website as it gets closer.
     
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    One would hope these events would get better with time but sadly that isn’t happening.
     
  13. Admiral Goodwrench

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    And not a single shot of John or Alicia! Sad.
     
  14. of2worlds

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    This is the only picture I came across from there >


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  15. Marcel Massini

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    This pic says it all.

    Marcel Massini
     
  16. rob lay

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    To be fair, John has a similar look alot.
     

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