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This is a great update in that it shows the improving image of Detomaso (the Pantera in this example). It is not only interesting that Jackie drove one in period, but also that he also did some testing for the Detomaso factory team. And now, someone in the BBC production team felt that it was important enough a part of Jackie's story to include it into this modern feature. This is excellent for the marque. LS
Had the delta wing installed. The engine lid has been refurbished and repainted. New brake master cylinder parts, steering rack and all new suspension bushings are now in and getting installed this week. New PZEROs arrived - waiting for the Michelin TB15's for the front. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Because they are a bad idea. Lower unsprung weight but hard to keep them cool because they are out of the air flow.
looking awesome John! where are you going to show it this spring/summer? it definitely needs a closer look!
I'll be driving it JeremyJon. The WHOLE car has been gone thru - Suspension, 427 SB, serviced ZF, steering, braking system, tires, electrical, AC/HVAC.... everything... It will mechanically / electrically perfect. So, I'll be taking it on long drives, C&C's, stuff like that. Im hoping the car will be the same event experience as the GT40 replica I had. I'm not into replicas but that car really turned my crank and I miss it.
John, I hope you are able to connect with Peter H and some of the other Pantera guys near you as there are some great driving experiences to be had with them. I wish I had your roads and vistas closer to me.
Good question, Dallara was a race chassis genius. He preferred outboard for his roadgoing supercars: Pantera Countach Miura BMW M1 Outboard seemed the choice of competitors also: BB Daytona Esprit (after '87) 930 The comp cars were heading towards outboard in the mid 60s also. 250/275LM was the last LM winner with inboards, the Ford GT, 917, etc. went to outboard. These new designs made the 250LM look like an antique and were doing 220+ on the Mulsanne straight. I'd imagine having hot inboard rear discs next to the transaxle over a 12 or 24hr endurance race wasn't going to be very good for reliability. Some of the older successful inboard comp sports cars were on steel wire wheels where reduced suspension weight was more important. Moving to Mg wheels helped offset some of the weight penalty of outboard units. Brake pad changes would be potentially easier when combined with tire changes for longer races also. Inboard would be better on a lighter chassis made for sprint length racing such as F1. ...but I'm no expert... LS
A tiny slice of Detomaso race history...privateer results in the IMSA series: IMSAblog: Hugh Kleinpeter De Tomaso Pantera A real "factory" backed team with a manufacturer backed engine program would've done wonders. LS
As expected, I changed everything out.... Braking system, steering rack, suspension bushings, tires, etc... IMG_2448 - YouTube Wow she's a loud one....
I did some research but the pantera world does not have a Marcel massini who is carefuly documenting all the race cars, so thre's a lot of by guess and by gosh on how many GT/4s they made (14? 16?) and what equipment they had. If there's anybody that considers themselves an expert on this model, please let me know, I'd like to contact them with my info. to see if I am on target. I think there was a website called QV500 from England that had a story on the Comp Panteras but I can't find the site now. I have misc. questions like were there any GT/4s sent to the US. during the time Ford imported the Pantera? I seem to remember some heir to the Ford family ordering one. And then there was Warren Tope, the son of a Ford exec, who raced one but was killed in a Can Am car that went under the Armco. i think the situation on value of the Comp Panteras is turning now; they will finally climb in value like the Comp Shelbys and Cobras already have
Mike Drew is who you want to talk to. If there is an active Pantera expert...he is the one. He doesn't post much here, but he is reachable. This is his profile: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/members/78446.html
I second the suggestion to contact Mike Drew. I would post his email address here but I am not sure if that is ok. I will post this as I am not entirely sure it has been posted before. This link will take you to the DeTomaso email list that is run by POCA (Pantera Owners Club of America). DeTomaso Info Page You should quickly find by looking at the archives that it is a VERY active email list. There is a tremendous wealth of DeTomaso information available on there, and Mike Drew is a very prolific poster on there. I mean that in a good way.
The QV500 website run by Ben Tyer in the UK used to have a very respectable registry of De Tomaso (and many other marque) cars (excepting the mass-production Panteras). That site listed the 14 original Factory Group 4 cars as follows: THPNLM 02263: 1971 Pantera Gr.4 THPNLM 02342: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMB 02343: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMB 02344: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02823: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNLM 02824: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02858: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02859: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02860: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02861: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02862: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02872: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02873: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 THPNMR 02874: 1972 Pantera Gr.4 It also included the following statement concluding the write-up describing the Group 4 cars: "Exactly how many factory-built GT4's were originally constructed is unknown, De Tomaso offering the car by special request well into the 1980's. Establishing genuine GT4's can be difficult so do check the original factory records with De Tomaso in Modena." Subsequently I came across this listing (original source unknown), which has matching numbers but slightly different lettering (which identifies the build date). Both lists seem to agree that there were originally 14 cars. Mark Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thought y'all would appreciate this view, Random-T-05_17_13-920-51 : theTHROTTLE. Image Unavailable, Please Login
