Part # 137665 for a 348 | FerrariChat

Part # 137665 for a 348

Discussion in '348/355' started by albert328gts, Nov 16, 2007.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Help! Does anyone have a schematic of part # 137665? Its the turn signal stalk for a 348.
     
  2. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
    Sponsor Owner

    137665 is the front wiring harness for a 348. The turn signal stalks are 154563.

    Which do you require?
     
  3. mad dog

    mad dog Formula Junior

    Jan 5, 2006
    875
    suffolk uk
    Full Name:
    andrew
  4. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Thanks guys, appreciate it, wow its an expensive part to replace. Thanks for the link on the rebuild, mine is acting up but not floppy. When I start the car from cold the indicators work fine the first time left or right. Afterwards, when I use my right or left indicator, they blink rapidly (more so then normal) without the light (turn signal light front and back) working.
    Not sure if its electrical/ground. My mechanic said I needed a new turn signal stalk, but seems excessive.
     
  5. mad dog

    mad dog Formula Junior

    Jan 5, 2006
    875
    suffolk uk
    Full Name:
    andrew
    Glad to know your not floppy.
    to my mind this sounds more like electrical and closer to the flasher unit rather than the stalk. I would replace that as a cheap first shot.
     
  6. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Thanks, now where would I find the flasher unit? Meaning is it the Circuit Breaker possibly? Or?
     
  7. mad dog

    mad dog Formula Junior

    Jan 5, 2006
    875
    suffolk uk
    Full Name:
    andrew
  8. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Wow thats it! I suspect that I will find this piece inside/within the turn signal stalk? Correct? I know, I know I need a map/drawing. If it's electrical I usually hate to deal with it, but this is something that I think EVEN I can do.
     
  9. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    OK, this is underneath the passenger foot rest area! You guys are great!
     
  10. blackcross

    blackcross Karting

    Jun 23, 2007
    100
    Sounds like a classic problem: bulb burnt out. Have you checked them?
     
  11. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Would it still work off and on?
     
  12. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
    5,966
    Milton, Wash.
    Full Name:
    Jeff B.
    If the bulb is burned out, or has defective filaments, or has a bad connection in the socket, or has water in the socket, or has a bad ground, then the electrical current simply follows the path of least resistance, instead of illuminating the bulb.

    It's always a good idea in such cases to just turn on the emergency flashers (which activate the turn signals at all four corners) and see if you can narrow the problem down to one particular corner. That is, three of the corners seem to work OK, and one of them does not work, or seems dim, or the turn signal is illuminating the brake light instead of the turn signal lens. It's much more likely to be a bulb problem or a ground problem than a flasher problem. And quite unlikely to be a switch problem.
     
  13. mad dog

    mad dog Formula Junior

    Jan 5, 2006
    875
    suffolk uk
    Full Name:
    andrew
    Sorry Jeff is right, Ive just re read your original post. I misunderstood it when you said without the light (turn signal light front and back) working. I thought you meant none of the bulbs at each corner worked. If they or some of them are flashing rapidly then it is just a case of a burnt out bulb as Jeff says. Or a problem around the bulb. The filament could join up now and again and not work when hot, or it could be a connection to the bulb. fraid I misled you a bit. But let us know what you find.
     
  14. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Thats my project for this weekend, will let you all know what I find. Thanks for all of you help and insight.
     
  15. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Ok, so this weekend I decided to check and see whats up with my turn signals. Once again first time around left side worked fine, then the right would not work at all, then left nothing, just a much more rapid clicking sound that the turn signal was on. Tried the hazard lights, and they worked fine, all the time.
    Break lights, work perfectlhy, back up lights work great; so this morning ordered the part 159265, takes 10 days according to Ferrari of Beverly Hills? Patients...
     
  16. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
    5,966
    Milton, Wash.
    Full Name:
    Jeff B.
    159265 is the flasher unit for both the turn signals and the emergency flashers. It seems strange that the emergency flashers work OK but the turn signals do not. Curious. Just for laughs, try a couple of things:

    1) When the emergency flashers are on, all four turn signals should be working. The rear turn signals have only one bulb at each corner, but the front turn signals should have TWO bulbs working at each corner. Are all six turn signal bulbs actually illuminating?

    2) When the emergency flashers are on, try having someone push on the brake pedal and/or turn on the headlights. Does this change anything?

    10 days is a ridiculous time to have to wait for a simple part. Doesn't Daniel have it?
     
  17. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    Ok, I did what you requested Miltonian, flashers on, lights on, break lights on, all worked fine. Nothing messed up. All 6 lights lit up. As you mentioned there are 2 in each front units. And 2 in the rear. I would hate to think its the turn signal stalk!!!!
     
  18. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
    5,966
    Milton, Wash.
    Full Name:
    Jeff B.
    Well, it seems like we have covered the basics. Just for information sake, do you have any kind of an alarm system that flashes the lights (particularly the turn signals) and sounds the horn when the alarm is tripped? And when the turn signals are NOT working, does it do any good to "fiddle" with the stalk, or are they just plain dead until the next time they feel like working again?

    I HOPE you don't have a problem with the switch, it's not made to be repairable, and it's frighteningly spendy. Good luck!
     
  19. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    No, no alarm what so ever. And if I do fiddle with the turn signal stalk, nothing happens. And you are right, thats about $1300 for that part. I will wait, see if the part I ordered earlier today works....
     
  20. mseals

    mseals Two Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Sep 9, 2007
    24,468
    Kuwait
    Full Name:
    Mike Seals
    Maybe if someone it parting out a wrecked car you can get it cheaper...

    my $.02

    Mike in Kuwait
     
  21. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

    May 21, 2005
    72,740
    Vegas+Alabama
    Full Name:
    Mr. Sideways
    Good plan. If that doesn't help, then pull your signal lights to inspect them. Someone could have installed LEDs (without proper resistors) instead of bulbs, or a bulb installation could be problematic.

    Basically, I'd suggest checking a lot of things before replacing a turn stalk.
     
  22. mad dog

    mad dog Formula Junior

    Jan 5, 2006
    875
    suffolk uk
    Full Name:
    andrew
    Would a way round a stalk dismantle be to pull the connector to it apart and direct connect the wires together to test there? now what wires they are is a different matter..... Although I didn't find it to be that difficult to do, as long as you don't lose any bits. But this is looking more like an connection problem somewhere dont you think?
     
  23. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

    May 21, 2005
    72,740
    Vegas+Alabama
    Full Name:
    Mr. Sideways
    Sure, it could be a connection issue or bad grounding issue, and there probably is some way to test it (I just haven't looked into it).


    It could also be a bad part (flasher/light/stalk/wiring).
     
  24. albert328gts

    albert328gts Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    1,667
    California
    I have owned the car since 2001. And have never replaced the turn signal bulbs, but have set up the rear to accomadate a challange grill, and round 355 rear lights. This was a couple of years ago, and have not had a problem with my turn signals at all since the conversion. All wiring looks good. Will see if its as simple as a part 159265, and I have been shopping the wrecked sites, but nothing yet.
     

Share This Page