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  1. samson

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    6 months ago a Ferrari mechanic installed a new original fuse block (ceramic fuses) in the previous owner's 1985 308gts. I own it now. Following the fchatters on this site I purchased Birdman's updated fuse block(I have no issues with the one that's in there now). The questions I have are as follows:
    1-The owner's manual does not coincide with the fuses that are listed on the fuse block cover(amp wise).
    2-The fuses that were installed do not coincide with the manual or the cover.
    3-Some of the fuses are energized with the key off. In my manual there is a switch to disconnect the battery on the left inner fender. Do I just pull that connector apart?
    Shockingly grateful,
    Sam
     
  2. Paul_308

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    #2 Paul_308, Mar 25, 2011
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    1) Which ones are disturbing you? There really isn't much difference over the 11 years of 308 except for fuel pump, windows, and heater/ac fan which were 25A in early cars and 16A in injected cars.

    2) What the previous PO or his mechanic did can vary for a good reason or simply a mistake. Best to start over with the manual as your guide. If you find some fuses blowing, then find out why. I.e. don't put in higher rated fuses without a good reason. Windows do start to draw more voltage as the greases sets etc etc.

    3) Yes, to install the Birdman or do other major electrical work, you must unplug the battery by pulling out the battery ground connector. After a few attempts you will be able to put it back without looking.

    Note: When you upgrade from Bosch torpedo fuses to US SAE cartridge fuses for the Birdman fuseblock, you will not find the exact ratings you had. You will use 7.5A (or 10A) instead of 8A and 15A instead of 16A.
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  3. samson

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    #3 samson, Mar 26, 2011
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    Hey Paul,
    I'm sending over some pictures. Hopefully it won't be confusing. It shows what the manual says, what the fuse cover says and what are actually in there. On the left block you can see the 2 thin metal elements. There is no markings on them but I am assuming they are 8a. On the right block there are also 2 thin metal elements. You can see that 5 fuses don't jive. That's what's confusing me. If I go by the manual I will be lowering 3 fuses and raising 1. I hope I didn't make you crazy but I don't want to melt anything. Everything is working now. What do you think?
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  4. Paul_308

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    #4 Paul_308, Mar 26, 2011
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    Left fuse block:
    The #3 fuse for the fuel pump should be 16A. The cover is NOT for your car. I've searched by can't find what car it could be from.

    Right fuse block:
    The first 4 fuses are for the headlights. High beam, high beam, low beam, low beam. No reason for any of them to be different from 8A. Fuses 5 & 6 are for parking lights and should also be 8A. The right cover is NOT for your car, valuewise it does fit a 208 Turbo ~1982.

    Incidentally, your existing fuse blocks do look factory fresh, best I've seen and certainly not a pending problem. Except for the fuel pump fuse, I'd be tempted to pull the number masking tapes off the connectors and leave everything as it as long as everything works. Yearly, use a fingertip to rotate each fuse slightly in the socket and enjoy the car.

    Good job of photo documenting your bewilderment.
    I am posting the fuse block schematic so you understand how various fuses are connected together at the top.

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  5. samson

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    Thanks Paul for all your work. I really appreciate it. I will try and find some spare fuses to keep in the car and just shelf the fuse block I got from Birdman. I will change the amps where needed. Especially the fuel pump! I'll switch #3 on left with #1 on right. That will give me a 16a at fuel pump. So I guess the manual is correct. Fancy that!!
    Thanks again,
    Sam
    Now I have to look for another project.
     
  6. samson

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    I just realized something you said about the right fuse block. You said to pull the number tape off and since everything is working just leave it alone. Does that mean I shouldn't change the 16a to 8a for #4,5,& 6?
     
  7. Paul_308

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    It isn't really a big deal. Fuse 4 is low beam and should be 8A, sure.

    Nr 5 and 6 are parking. What they've done is split them to right front and left rear are one fuse and left front and right rear are the other. In this way if one blows there is still lights at front and rear...nice touch.

    Couple years back I had one of those parking light fuses blow when I'm at the last 20 miles of a 1000 mile trip trying to make it home. When my #5 fuse blew the instrument gauge lights went out also. And within a few minutes a sheriff saw my missing tail light and pulled me over, while I'm without any knowledge of my speed having no gauge lights. Routine excuse for a stop and happy ending.

    Later, I spent way too many hours trying to find out why and was it right front, left rear, gauge lights, must be a frayed wire somewhere but found nothing. Split fuse 5 into 4 separate circuits with 5A fuses but none blew while driving off a tank of gas with lights on trying to duplicate the circumstances. Normally I'd say sure change them back to 8A but guess I'm affected by the experience and don't see any problem running them with a heavy fuse but yes, they should be 8A also. So, if I had a 16A rather than an 8A perhaps it wouldn't have gone out but who's to know? Never found a frayed wire or any reason for the fuse to open up and it could have been a bad fuse too. 16A or 8A, your choice, manual says 8A.
     
  8. samson

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    Thanks again Paul. I'll leave it as is. I did however change the fuel pump fuse.
     

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