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Peter Kaus - Rosso Bianco museum

Discussion in 'Maserati' started by OFFtrack, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. OFFtrack

    OFFtrack Karting

    Jan 4, 2013
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    Anybody know which Maseratis were in the collection that was sold to Evert Louwman in 2006?

    Just saw some pictures of an A6G 2000 Zagato, a Vignale Spyder, a Tipo 151, a Mistral and some others that were on display in the german museum that apparently hosted many more jewels but closed 7 years ago.

    What happened to them? All sold at auctions? Any pictures of the Maseratis that were part of the collection?

    Thanks for your help
    Dirk
     
  2. Ursa Major

    Ursa Major Karting

    Feb 25, 2011
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    I will have a look in my album. Was there in 2002 and took pictures of all Maseratis. The collection was huge!
     
  3. paul robert

    paul robert Karting

    Dec 29, 2010
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    peter kaus and i were neighbours in frankfurt when we were both freshly divorced in the early 90's, and we are still good friends. the maseratis and all the other cars are well documented in his book on the collection.i have a copy of it somewhere but you should be able to trace a copy although it was a limited edition.
    there were some 300 cars in the collection officially and all the important maseratis were represented.
    we spent a lot of after hours time there and later my three year old son was told to pick his favourite car. he picked the tipo 63 amazingly, climbed in and did not want to get out. still have a picture of this.
    i don't want to get into insider stories as a matter of discretion.
    it was a great collection.
    P
     
  4. BIRA

    BIRA Formula Junior

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    There was an unrestored Vignale spyder in gold color that sold twice at auctions.
     
  5. staatsof

    staatsof Six Time F1 World Champ
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    When I met him In Riccione back in 1986 I then followed him on a rally in a Merak with a woman who was driving her boyfriend's Merak - she spoke no english. He was driving his 450S that day but I don't know how long he held on to that car? I think there was conversation with Walter about that car. Shoot him a note.
     
  6. OFFtrack

    OFFtrack Karting

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    Thanks for the feedback. Such a shame the collection is lost and the cars not for open display anymore. Never had the chance to visit it even though i am in germany.
    Tried to track down the book but it is rather hard to find. Found one in france through the web and ordered it. Lets see if it arrives.
    Also good to know some close friends of Peter Kaus are still out there. Am sure it was amazing hanging out around all those amazing cars. Were some of them frequently used?
    Which ones did he keep?
    Such a shame he didnt get support from the cities for his collection. The next generations are truly missing out by not being able to witness such a remarkable heritage.

    Best
    Dirk
     
  7. OFFtrack

    OFFtrack Karting

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    And yes, if someone has got any pics, please share them. We all love pictures of beautiful cars, dont we?
     
  8. paul robert

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    #8 paul robert, Jan 28, 2014
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    i just realised only 3000 copies of the book were printed, so it may be a bit tricky to get one.
    any way this is the list of the maseratis excluding the oscas.
    and the picture of my son taken in 97. an annoying issue of having the museum was people 'borrowing' things. start drooling.
    8C 3000 1932
    4CS 1500MM 1934
    A6 G 1500 _inin 1949
    A6GCS 1953
    A6 G2000 GT Zagato 1955
    A6 G2000 GT Allemano 1955
    300S 1956
    A6G/2000 Frua Spider 1956
    450S Costin Zagato coupe 1956
    450S 1957
    250S 1957
    3500 GT Touring 1958
    60/61 Birdcage 1969
    Tip 63 1960
    tipo 61 LM 1961
    3500 vignale spider 1962
    151/1 LM coupe 1964
    tipo 65 1963
    mistral coupe
    mistral spider
    Indy 1972
    Ghibli
    Bora 1973
    Khamsin 1976

    he kept none of these cars.
    P
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  9. OFFtrack

    OFFtrack Karting

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    Thanks for posting this comprehensive list. Hope i'll get to see some pictures if i manage to get the book.
    Am surprised that the Costin Zagato and the Frua Spyder were also part of the collection among many other important cars.

    Why did he sell all of them after spending so much time acquiring them?
    Personal or financial reasons? Just curious but understand if this is too indiscreet.

    Did he ever regret it?
     
  10. philt68

    philt68 Formula Junior

    Aug 26, 2008
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    it's not a maserati, but my lancia stratos came from his collection...i have pictures of it in the museum, before i restored it back to original condition
     
  11. Quattroporte3

    Quattroporte3 Formula 3

    Nov 13, 2010
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    Hortens UK has a copy, £200 plus shipping.

    It looks like quite a tome...
     
  12. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    The A6 1500 (not "G") was #073. It went to a German owner, then a Dutch dealer, had restoration work performed by Lachiara in Italy and is apparently now in England.
     
  13. Wolf

    Wolf Formula Junior

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    The 250S was #2431.

    Regards

    Wolfi
     
  14. licodix

    licodix Formula Junior

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    Three or four cars were auctioned in 2006 at Gstaad Bonham's Ferrari & Maserati sale. I think to remember the 450S Costin recreation, the Tipo 63 and 61 also... Need to check my photographs from that time.

    It is a shame the collection was broken into parts. Was fascinating to be there!
     
  15. bellabarbas

    bellabarbas Formula Junior

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    8C 3000 1932 s/n 3002
    4CS 1500MM 1934 s/n 1124
    A6 G 1500 s/n 073 (from ColdWater, Many thanks !)
    A6GCS 1953 s/n 2085
    A6 G2000 GT Zagato 1955 s/n 2148 ?
    A6 G2000 GT Allemano 1955 s/n ??
    300S 1956 s/n 3073
    A6G/2000 Frua Spider 1956 s/n 2192
    450S Costin Zagato coupe 1956 s/n 4512
    450S 1957 s/n 4506
    250S 1957 s/n 2431 (engine is not the number 2431 !)
    3500 GT Touring 1958 s/n AM 101*1786
    60/61 Birdcage 1969
    Tip 63 1960 s/n 2465
    tipo 61 LM 1961 s/n 2451
    3500 vignale spider 1962 s/n AM 101*2771
    151/1 LM coupe 1964 s/n 151.004 ?
    tipo 65 1963 s/n 65002
    Mistral coupe s/n AM109/SA 1*663
    Mistral spider s/n AM109*326
    Indy 1972 s/n AM116*120
    Ghibli s/n ?
    Bora 1973 s/n ?
    Khamsin 1976 s/n ?

    Research by the always excellent registers made ​​by John de Boer,
    and seen on:
    Les Grandes Marques à Monaco - Rosso Bianco cars already in auction
    and something transcript years ago.
     
  16. BartvanderWeiden

    BartvanderWeiden Formula Junior

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    #16 BartvanderWeiden, Jan 30, 2014
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    LS,

    The A6G 2000 Allemano GT was purchased at the Gstaad Auction by a good friend of mine.
    When we started the restoration we thought the car had undergone a load of modifications during its active life up till the moment that we found a bit of the history in the Orsini Zagari bible.
    With the great help of Mr Orsi we were able to retreive about an inch of copies from communications between the owner and Maserati. The 1st owner had the car built with rallying in mind and had numerous modifications done by Maserati. Reading some of these communications was hilarious! A truly unique two tone example was the result.
    The present owner went through a great deal of detail to have it restored to the original specs. From the original Jaeger LeCoultre Chronograph that the 1st owner had taken from his Bugatti till the special woven carpet in the trunk.
    The level of the restoration is very high and the car looks and drives great.

    The recent pictures of the Maserati factory in the fifties shown in the Maserati threads recently show this unique one off in the factory hall.

    Ciao,

    Bart
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  17. Nembo1777

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    #17 Nembo1777, Jan 30, 2014
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    I really enjoyed visiting the museum twice. It was truly awe inspiring in its quantity and quality of cars.

    In December 1993 I met Kaus there and after the visit he guided me to the Autobahn in his XJS when we left at the same time.

    In July 1995 we pulled out the Tipo 151/3 recreation/Phoenix for the photoshoot I did for my article in Sports Car Interrnational (the car that was reworked very extensively, rebodied and is now with Barrie Baxter in the UK). Kaus was already very frustrated with the city not helping, not putting up signs etc...

    The Khamsin was AM120034, later for sale at Berlinetta Motors in St Ingbert, Germany.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  18. paul robert

    paul robert Karting

    Dec 29, 2010
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    hello marc,
    i remember that racing green XJS very well as it was always parked next to my car. this was no ordinary, sluggish V12 XJS but a Walkinshaw built car with a very whiny manual box. very fast indeed. it was later totalled on the autobahn.
    was the khamsin blue, as in the book? i seem to remember a silver one as was the ghibli.
    peter hated the car saying the steering once seized and landed him in a field. i never fully believed him on this.
    p













     
  19. paul robert

    paul robert Karting

    Dec 29, 2010
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    i really liked this car when i saw i at maastricht. at the time it was red in a sea of red and got a bit overshadowed by the more flamboyant shapes. was this the regional colour scheme?
    P










     
  20. BartvanderWeiden

    BartvanderWeiden Formula Junior

    Nov 29, 2008
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    Hello Paul,

    Yes, the two tone combination of this car in bright red and black is exactly as how it was ordered by the first owner, an American by the name of Cicornel, living in Paris.
    The chrome strip on the side of the car was the clear marker and unique for this car.
    Also the somewhat sturdier bumpers and built in fog lights are typical for this car.

    Ciao,

    Bart
     
  21. Wolf

    Wolf Formula Junior

    Nov 17, 2003
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    [ 250S 1957 s/n 2431 (engine is not the number 2431 !)


    But now it is.

    Regards

    Wolfi
     
  22. OFFtrack

    OFFtrack Karting

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    Hey Wolfi,

    assume it is the one, some here were able to witness you racing?
    very nice car.

    The A6G Allemano is truly beautiful. Wasnt sure about the colour combination at first
    since i believe it distracts too much from the beautiful shape but always good to see the original state it was delivered it.
     
  23. Wolf

    Wolf Formula Junior

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    #23 Wolf, Jan 31, 2014
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    Yes, Le Mans Classic 2012. Car will be back this year in its original livery.

    Regards

    Pictures copyright "Octane" magazine


    Wolfi
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  24. Nembo1777

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    Hello Paul,

    I hope you are well. I did not see the Jag too well because it was dark, we were both in a hurry, there was snow around and I had to get to Stuttgart that evening. I was in my 924 Turbo I had shipped from Florida and when I stopped on the unsalted Autobahn an hour later under heavy snowfall to remove it from my headlights I noticed that no traffic at all was coming on my side...I had the eerie feeling a pile up happened behind me...

    The Khamsin was dark blue with tan interior 5 speed, smooth nose. I have no data on where that one is now.

    It is no secret that the German government came after him for taxes (just like they harassed Boris Becker) which is at least one reason why he sold the cars.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  25. Mexico074

    Mexico074 Formula 3

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    Hello Marc/Paul.. I think I can say this, "Those mean Germans!! - just kidding, as I am half German (mothers maiden name was Schlageter)... All Governments can be small-
    minded at times!

    Wolfi... The 250S is absolutely stunning.. The lines are perfect... This is a stupid
    question, but is the body the same as the 300S? They look extremely similar to me, but
    am not certain! Looks like it would be extremely fund to drive!!
     

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