Marcel, do you think that 1017 had the same two stripes as seen on his 400 Super America? The combination of blue and green clearly meant something as also seen on 0064M and on the anniversary medal shown here. A darker royal blue colour features in the Agnelli family crest but I have never been able to explain the green, Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Dino 206 GT Coupé Scaglietti chassis #00204 owned by Andrew Bagley, restored by Barkaways, UK, color Oro Chiaro Metallizzato, exactly as born. This weekend at Villa d'Este Concours. Marcel Massini
Thank you Marcel, coincidentally i saw this Dino parked next to a row of Ferraris at Villa D'Este this morning. What a beautiful Dino.
I had a long chat with its restorer, stunning job and car, they had to create some parts as it is all unobtainium. He also educated me on the many differences between 206 and 246 which I had never looked into. Very interesting.
Yes, Ian Barkaways is a very nice gentleman and pretty knowledgeable. Highly recommended. Marcel Massini
With all due respect, but same could be said about almost all vintage production cars, including older Ferraris from the era of Dinos. Daytonas, for example, beyond just their commonly known and easily recognizable “major” differences, depending on production timeline and/or intended market destinations, seem to also have hundreds upon hundreds (or more ?) smaller, obscure and many being not originally/seemingly expected or intended detail variations between them. And I have observed and documented several other make & model vintage cars having countless obscure differences between seemingly same cars in just a single production year.
Clive: Below period color pic from Torino 1959 shows that Agnelli's 1517 SA was born without any stripe at all. I understand that blue and green side stripe was added later. Re your question about Agnelli's 1017 GT: There are only very very few period pix of this car and unfortunately 1017 GT was burned to ashes in the December 1983 fire at Garage Z. in France. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
Near Lake Garda, Italy, today. 07277. Born white, later yellow, then deep blue. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thank you for your post but -with all due respect too;-)- you are confusing design evolutions with nut and bolt supply chain changes. In any case all of it allows a fascinating insight into limited production handmade cars. Often times people tear their hair out trying to find out why one car has significant differences in for example the engine bay compared to a chassis number just before or after...when often it was a matter of what was on the shelf when that car had to be completed or a change of suppliers.
Same car, 09755, about two years ago at Cremonini's in Lesignana near Modena. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
So true Marc, Ferrari used parts available off the shelf during most hand made production runs. My 2+2 came with factory installed sunroof ( very unusual ) but when i looked at the production serial numbers of that period they also produced the 365 convertibles on the same day/week for not so common specials and chances are they used some different parts from different suppliers. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Definitely more light than in their previous location! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
So true, when I suggested renting a convertible for a weekend away my Geneva based ex got suddenly annoyed and started saying they are terrible, her hair gets lots of knots and glue to her lipstick, her false eyelashes fly off, why do men always want to go on date trips in convertibles?!! ...and so on...when I answered that I would buy her a full face helmet, maybe with an opaque visor so she would not see how fast I go she sulked for an hour
Yes but it was impressive to walk down that dark and almost ran down place only to be faced with 2 250 LMs among the rest..
Well, again, with utmost respect, but you didn’t actually specify “design evolution” in your earlier post and I do agree, I tend to get cornfused easier than in my wilder years. While I wasn’t at or even near the factories at the time when most of the cars I’ve worked on over the past 4+ decades were made, I learned early on that “supply chain changes” were (and perhaps still are ?) quite common even among large scale car manufacturing. OTOH, while your original reference was 206 vs. 246, I’ve also seen “design evolution” changes in several single model year (large scale) production cars and currently even working on one.