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  1. amenasce

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    12 Ferraris coming from a discreet Swedish collector who turned 80 in February of this year.
    Including an original/one owner Daytona Spider #17055 in Marrone (U.S. version but delivered new thru SAVAF in Geneva, Switzerland to the man). Odometer just showing 3'862 miles (after 50 years of ownership, that's just 77 miles per year).

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    Shame it wasn't driven more and enjoyed.

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    Yes, it’s always a bit saddening to hear/read these kinds of stories, but hopefully someone has or will photo document the presumed originality of any and all details far better than commonly done with most unrestored cars before they get “refreshed”/“restored”.
     
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    +1 agree
     
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    Agree. But that's what I don't understand. You take a very nice original car like this, and someone will 'restore' it. Why? It's nearly new as is. Just drive it. It's a machine and benefits from thoughtful use and maintenance. They should be used. And, I never understand the statement "the car was born with". Cars are not born, they are made. They are machines.

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    agree and why remove the smog equipment? it can be disabled by pulling a fuse or removing a belt.
     
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    Having had a pleasures to work on and extensively photo document many low mileage, unrestored 50 - 100+ year old vintage “survivor”(?) cars, including but not limited to Ferraris, some which were very carefully recommissioned back to drivable/useable condition without disturbing(?) much of the original details or finishes, so I know it can be done, but often new/subsequent owner(s) may not appreciate curating the originality and prefer spending more money promptly to make their new acquisition look freshly done for the crowd pleasing at the show fields with little or no regards to authenticity. :(
     
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    Despite being an U.S. version 17055 was delivered new and road registered in Switzerland and Swiss laws required the removal at the time. Later on the car was registered in another country.

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    Interesting
     
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    I know the legislation was completely insane in many cases, but forced removal of equipment reducing emissions would really be something!
     
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    While it would be interesting to see the text of such legislation, I somehow doubt it was as insane as some in Finland back in those days, let alone taxing of cars. :rolleyes:
     
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    All the mistakes made in factory assembly need to be corrected, off course. At minimum all those Pirelli stickers need to be added, they were completely forgetten every so often!
     
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    #4244 TTR, Apr 15, 2023
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    Well, of course and yes, at minimum. ;)

    There’s a saying “Perfection is (often) the enemy of good enough”, but perhaps in the world of vintage Ferraris and especially their restorations, it would be more apt if said “Perfection is (often) the enemy of authenticity” ? :rolleyes:
     
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    According to the number plate it is 3911GT, I saw it at last year's Goodwood Revival so I think it should be a real one.
     

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