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  1. karrerakid930

    karrerakid930 Karting

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    Roger Martinez
    and the hits just keep on coming ........wait till you hear about what hes up to now !!!
     
  2. oscar_driver

    oscar_driver Formula Junior

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    + 100 on Bubba, @ this point, perhaps is the way to go, down in South America people use these guys as least resource ... it works ....
     
  3. paulie_b

    paulie_b F1 Veteran
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    John, I am with you. I am not Sicilian but I am 100% Italian.
    We are in FL so down here they call Bubba. Where I am from they call Vito or PaulieB!
     
  4. paulie_b

    paulie_b F1 Veteran
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    Todd, you will get a pass......you are safe.
     
  5. paulie_b

    paulie_b F1 Veteran
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    what might that be?
    maybe making license plates for the state?
     
  6. curiousgeorge

    curiousgeorge Rookie

    Aug 4, 2010
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    Here is more of the info that I have gotten some from the court documents as well as people that were there:

    In early 2008 Navarro sold a Mercedes CLK GTR Roadster an exotic grey market type car for $1,350,000 to David Dinh of California.

    Dinh wired the money for the car into the escrow account of Attorney Jim Rainy Esq. of West Palm Beach. Jim Rainy Esq., alledgedly, without proper paperwork released the funds to Navarro the NEXT DAY. Money disappeared and the car disappeared.

    Currently Mr. Dinh has a judgement for over $2 million against Navarro which is detailed in an earlier post in this thread. The seller/owner of the car is a Dr. Gerald Berube of Naples Florida. The car was located at HWA AMG Mercedes which is located in Afalterbach Germany.

    Navarro approached Berube in regard to reselling the car and asked for the title which Berube gave to Navarro ostenstibly for the purpose of having the car imported into the United States as the buyer was in the USA(dinh) . With the Title in hand Navarro had the car picked up from HWA and had the car hidden in Germany.

    Without the title in hand Berube cannot do anything to get his car back and Navarro has told him if he acts against him he will never see his car again. In the meantime Dinh is trying to collect on his judgement or get the car delivered and local law enforcement seems curiously uninterested in regard to recovery of a million dollar plus stolen vehicle...

    Right now the buyer and seller do not have the car or the money! From a tax perspective this is interesting because Navarro has the car, worth $1.5 million and collected $1.3 million dollars in cash(minus attorneys fees I am sure) for the car which creates a tax event in this single case of over $3 million of unreported income.
     
  7. curiousgeorge

    curiousgeorge Rookie

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    except his real name is Peter Louis...Not Piero Navarro...no need to smear our good Italian friends for this one....:)

    If you are going to sell Italian cars helps with the image to have an Italian name...
     
  8. anamathes

    anamathes Rookie

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    #33 anamathes, Aug 4, 2010
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    Oh, wow, ok, Thanks. I'll do that. Yeah, Piero Navarro called yesterday? or the Day before? I didn't pick up. It was odd, especially since I just got off the phone 15 minutes earlier with the investigator who basically told me on the phone that nothing can be done about my car now and that he removed it from the file as being stolen since innocent people own it. He told me an innocent doctor owns it now.
     
  9. anamathes

    anamathes Rookie

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    #34 anamathes, Aug 4, 2010
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    Actually when I couldn't cash the check, Piero has told me to send it back because he will write a good one. But he never did.
    I don't know why I didn't get the cash before I gave him the car they told me that's how it's done, and I trusted them. It was exactly a few days before my husband died, I was not 100%, and as my husband was dying, judge Larry Fidler's brother whose name is Bob (Robert) Fidler, told me that he promised my husband he will take care of me, and I remember going to AAA with him, because he told me I have to put the car in my name from my husband's name before I sell it and while it got transfered in my name, this Bobby Fidler put his name on the car. I didn't pay much attention to that because I was running back and fourth as my husband died. I thought, I'm in good hands, I mean Piero was a Ferrari dealer, and a dealer of exotic cars, and I thought these men were legitimate.
    Then after that happend the car was gone and I kept waiting to get paid for it. It's been six years of promises.
     
  10. Uomo360F1

    Uomo360F1 Formula Junior

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  11. paulie_b

    paulie_b F1 Veteran
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    "Right now the buyer and seller do not have the car or the money! From a tax perspective this is interesting because Navarro has the car, worth $1.5 million and collected $1.3 million dollars in cash(minus attorneys fees I am sure) for the car which creates a tax event in this single case of over $3 million of unreported income."

    sound like an Al Capone movie!
     
  12. Finer_Finish

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    This really comes as a surprise to me. I know Piero, and never got a negative vibe from him. I guess when you're a king rat you can blend in pretty well.
     
  13. anamathes

    anamathes Rookie

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    #38 anamathes, Aug 5, 2010
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  14. oss117

    oss117 F1 Rookie

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    It is how business gets done if you run into a snag:)
     
  15. oss117

    oss117 F1 Rookie

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    By the way, Navarro is not an Italian name: it is a "fabricated" Italian sounding name.
     
  16. htb3

    htb3 Formula Junior

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    Cant the guy that gave him the title to the Benz go to DMV with a police report and claim that it was lost or stolen and get a replacement title, or have DMV put some type of message on the title so that it cant be sold? If it was German title, I dont know how it works, but maybe the DMV in the US can do something.

    I could have sworn that I saw one of these Mercedes for sale on the internet somewhere a few weeks ago, but cant remember where. Arent there only a few of them in the US?
     
  17. ptrser

    ptrser Rookie

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    #42 ptrser, Aug 5, 2010
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    Ana,
    I am very sorry to hear about your unfortunate dealing with Piero. Without revealing too much information, I felt I had to inform you that a relative of mine is in a substantial lawsuit with Piero at this time. Attorney Carl Williams of McDonald Hopkins, LLC, based in Palm Beach, is representing the case. He is very familiar with Mr. Navarro and his past and present scams and unscrupulous dealings. I strongly suggest you contact Mr. Williams asap. I will not post his phone number, but you can contact him using the information I've provided. Mr. Williams is aware of your situation. Good luck.
     
  18. exxile20

    exxile20 Rookie
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    So you are family members of Gustan Cho? That's his attorney... Or are you Gustan on here using a false screen name? I know Gustans properties were put in to receivership and all of his cars were repo'd. Sounds like a good guy...

    Also, CuriousGeorge, I would be willing to bet that I know who you are..... I think I know that your name begins with Hen... Am I correct? Im absolutely positive that you couldn't prove your name is George :) Smear campaign much?

    No reason in bringing David in to this, Piero and him are making arrangements on the deal. And all of the details you "know", you don't know. There was a lot to the situation, and if you are at all business minded you would know that sometimes you have to go that route WITH THE DEALERS CONSENT (suing) to get the job done.

    Also, OP. If your claims are true and you are out $50k, why haven't you gone to court with MOD? I know why, because you are full of it :) I know who you are too!

    Lets be real here, Gustan Cho and Hendrick are in this thread stirring ****. Gustan, are you enjoying life in Kenosha County Wisconsin? How is the domestic abuse case going? Bad Gus! And Hendrick, I would remove yourself from this site and stirring **** asap! OP, you have no case, and you know it. Otherwise you would have sued and won, like David did.

    Oh, and his name IS Piero Navarro. Not Piero Louis, but Piero Louis Navarro. People should stop jumping on the bull**** wagon and break down the **** in this thread. I have used Piero for a LOOOONG time and he is a good guy. 99.9% of the people that know him would back that up. Call around.
     
  19. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

    Feb 9, 2005
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    If you are going to make comments and accusations yourself, you should do it openly, not as a "non-subscribed" participant with no profile whatsoever. That makes you look the same as the people you are accusing of misrepresenting themselves. Actually worse.

    Prove youself. I know most of the people making comments here, and if they say this Navarro is bad news, then he most likely is all they say.

    I am curious.

    So who are you? Are you Navarro?
     
  20. exxile20

    exxile20 Rookie
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    #45 exxile20, Aug 6, 2010
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    Oh yes, Im Piero. I signed up in March of last year, to wait until a full year and 5 months to reply to this thread. Good job figuring that out... :Rolleyes Now that its understood Im not Piero, but a client/friend....

    Profiles are for those who want to be profiled. They are not required to utilize this board. No where does it say that I must have a profile to respond to a thread. Thanks for the let down that I look worse than people involved in a smear campaign.

    Piero is a good guy. He has had some terrible luck with customers as of late. Gustan being one of many. This guy curiousgeorge is posting thing that only someone closely involved to the situation would know. I'm positive that I met a guy named Hendrick that worked at MOD that was causing a lot of problems for Piero. Im also pretty sure curiousgeorge is the guy Hendrick.

    I know the guy, I've been told a lot about whats going on regarding his shop and ITS DISGUSTING.

    Is Jim Lyons a member here? Maybe we can get him in here and see how many people are smearing Piero, and screwing him over at the same time. It would be great!


    I don't take the time to respond to dumb little kids bashing people like what is going on in this thread, however I know Piero as do a lot of my VERY close friends and the information that is provided in this thread is not here as a genuine warning, simply a personal shot at the guy. Now RP, if you can't deduce that yourself, then I can understand why you would defend the likes of them. It's tough in this day and time to be unique thus you jump on the wagon. Hoo Rah for you :)
     
  21. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    I asked you a simple question, that apparently you could not comprehend. Instead of a straight answer, you respond with sarcasm and arrogance.

    You need to learn to read better, I did not defend Navarro, as I have no idea who he is. I did state that I know many of the people that have made posts in this thread, and in addition to them having an identity, they also have the credibility that you lack.

    You may in fact have a point about the subject person, but the method of your response, your attitude, you total lack of identity, gives you zero credibility. Zero.

    Since I do not know the party in question, I can only read these posts and make my own assumptions. Your approach, your desire to remain anonymous, indicates you could have something to hide. Your defense of this person Navarro becomes useless. Just come forward, come out in the open, and can the attitude.

    You are merely a ghost. At this point, one with nothing valid to say. And you expect anyone to believe you?
     
  22. exxile20

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    #47 exxile20, Aug 6, 2010
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    Do you really think anyone cares whether or not you deem their posts as valid or not? I hope not, because you are wrong. Apparently, my posts get read, which was my intention. I know that things said in this thread are misrepresented, and some complete lies. I also know that two people in this thread are not who they say they are, and are just here to stir **** about Piero.

    You can't comprehend. Never did I say you defended Navarro. I said you defended the "nobodies" and the "ghosts" in this thread. Your entire post about no one knowing who I am, or what my name is, or where I live giving me no credibility is the most narcissistic comment I have ever read. Because you have told your name, have more posts, and 'know' people, your posts mean more than any one elses? Please kiddo, grow up. Come back to the real world.

    Threads like these can really harm ones business. Are you able to comprehend that this man has a family, kids, and partners that he takes care of? Do you realize if these people are smearing his name out of spite and you try to be the hit squad against those who defend Piero you are aiding that cause? Quit assuming that because you have a profile and 'know' people that you are any more important. You're not. Peoples family and kids are affected by slander and libel like this. Be a part of it if you want, but karma will do the same to you. So know it comes full circle my higher post count having, more well known via the internet friend. (That counts for a lot in life, let me tell you.)
     
  23. navarroisacrook

    Aug 6, 2010
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    Well you say pierro is his name, but his legal name is Peter...Pierro is more "Italian" sounding... or so he said... Exxile, ...holding onto an account for that long just to be able to say you are not pierro is something he would do... poor christine though. You think Hendrik is the one perpetuating this, but Pierro's ****ty dealings with mobsters, murderers, and the likes were sure to do him in, its just amazing that the people he dealt with trusted him like they did. Take my word, I have known pierro personally for years, he is a crook, he is a dangerous man, he was baker acted by the sherriffs and is a loon. Do not deal with him, or you will suffer. You are talking about a man under watch by the justice department, IRS, and multiple other agencies. For fear of his reprisal, i will not go into more details, however, he has threatened my life, and many others...
    STAY AWAY, if he has wronged you, contact authorities.
     
  24. TheCarcierge

    TheCarcierge Formula 3

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    Sounds like a job for the FChat police.

    Who is Exxile20?

    Why does he feel the need to chime in?

    Why won't he identify himself - especially when he is calling people out?

    Sounds like the bitterest, ugliest kind of troll to me.

    Where are Feelgood and Wax??

    Time to pull the troll out from under his bridge!! I think I hear the three billy goats Gruff approaching.

    Gonna go pop some popcorn and wait for the fireworks!

    Scottie
     
  25. exxile20

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    Okay Gustan. Thanks for the heads up. Poor Christine? Poor Laurie Klein-Cho...... How's that case going anyways? Detective Santelli says "Hi" and he'll see you soon :)

    And yes, Hendrik is being part of this. If everything you're saying is true. State your LEGAL name, your counsel, and EXACTLY what he has done. Not that you 'think' he has. I want you to state them as facts. I bet you will not do it! I bet you will not do it because you know you will be sued for slander and libel and you will lose. If you were being transparent and honest about everything you would not have to worry, as in court all you would have to do is substantiate what you have said. So lets put all the cards on the table, and see who the real players are.

    Any takers? Didn't think so! Funny to see Gustan still around trying to be an e-thug. Where are all of your cars? Did Elgin get most of them back? Nope! Probably because Piero put mechanics liens on your cars being repaired because you couldn't pay! Both you and Hendrik are pathetic. Do you two realize how badly you have affected his two lovely daughters? You two are terrible people. This thread and lynch mob attempt just further substantiates it. I remember you two goofs doing the same thing to people last year. Grow up.
     

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